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This is a fishfinder. It is a plastic sinker slide that slides
up and down your standing line. It is used primarily to
attenuate the weight of the sinker. The principle is so
that the fish won't feel the wieght when it
picks up and runs off with your bait.




This is a rig with a fishfinder long leader and bank sinker.
Its a setup often used for stripers when bait fishing.

A herring rig



(Forget the 5 foot leader. Use 18 to 30 inches on the leader.
Especially if your trying to cast it. Ok for 5 when on a boat. )

This is one version of a high lo rig. It is used to
keep one hook off of the bottom and is sometimes used with
a float attached.


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Rigs
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Eel Rig. Short shank short live bait hook. 18 to 30 inch leader.


Drum Rig


Fluke rig


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Trolling Tubes and rigs
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Tube and worm Rig


Tube with a rudder


Umrella tubes


This is an umbrella rig. Known as a niner with multiple baits
attached to each arm. It is used when trolling.
 

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Saltwater First

What do I buy to put in my plug bag?
Lures for each part of the water column.

What type of lures are used for stripers?
Plastics, Wood, resins, rubber and Metal.
Topwater, swimmers and bottom lures.

What are the categories of Plugs?
Surface Swimmer, Subsurface Swimmer, Mirror plug,
Bottle Plug, Popping Plug, Rattle Plug, Darter Plug, Pencil Popper Plugs,
Bullet Plugs,Needlefish plugs, Stainless steel jigs, Block tin squids,
Rigged Eels, Diamong Jigs, Kastmaster, Chromed Spoons, Leadheads, Jigheads,

There are So many what do i use?
The short answer.
Lures that resemble the forage base
available in the area you will be fishing.

Where can i purchase some of these?
Many of these items can be purchased at various online
tackle stores. a google web search with the keyword will
bring you to many. You can also click on the links below
and it will take you to some secure and reputable stores
where you can purchase them.

What are the most popular striper lures?
Besides the custom lures the Atom Striper Swiper, Atomizer,
Smiling Bill bucktails.
Kastmaster metal lures, a Mambo Minnow, Assalt Bomber,
Rebel broken back, Cotton Cordell Pencil Poppers and red
fins. FinS soft plastics, storm shads and sluggos.
Red gill sand eels

What type of retrieve do I use for all my plugs?
A good rule of thumb is to avoid carrying a bag full and changing
lures every few casts. Master a few and become
comfortable with the action of that particular lure. Learn
under what conditions a particular lure is most appropriate.
The surface swimmer has a verical lip which will give it a
side to side motion. It is maximized when retrieved very
slowly. You want it to lazily swim along like an unsuspecting
baitfish. Keep the line taught and speed up when a wave
hits it like its riding in the wave.
With popping plugs its best to vary the retrieve and even
let it sit. The design of the plug makes it wiggle. gentle
pop, hesitation and gentle pop.
Work these over rocks and rocky outcrops.
The pencil popper you point the rod at the popper and
move the tip up and down in a rapid motion. Soft tip rods
are best here.
On the subsurface swimmers these are most effective
when worked slowly, the faster you retrieve them the deeper
they will dive.
Bottle plugs were designed to be cast a mile, due to the
shape and their aerodynamics. The big lower lip design
pulls it under. It dives during your retrieve and will dive
deeper as you speed it up. Slow retrieve and it will still
wiggle.
When using darters vary the retrieve and twitch the rod tip.
Keep the line taught.
Needlefish are best worked when there are sand eels present
and without twitching. Let it sink and then retrieve it.
With steel jigs let them sink for a few and retrieve them at a
speed that will allow them to move side to side.

Atom Pencil Popper


Atom atomizer ---- Striper Swiper Mackeral pattern

Striper Swiper

Storm Wildeyes swimbaits


Wildeye Swim Shad - 9" - Bunker

Spro Primetime Bucktails


FinS soft stickbait


Acme Castmaster


Red Gill Sand Eels


Sluggo


Cotton Cordell Red Fins
Pencil Popper Chrome Black
Deep Diving Red Fin 5/8oz. Pearl/Red



Creek Chub superstrike


Bomber Saltwater Minnow - Black

One of the most recognized names of fishing lures.


What are some of the more popular custom Lures?
Deadly Dick


Charlie Graves Tins


Al Gags Grabber floating poppers and Black Darter


Al Gags Grabber Mambo Minnow


Stetskos Mr Wiggly's and Nantucket needlefish



Stan Gibbs


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Saltwater Natural Striper Baits

American Eel, American Sand Lance, Atlantic Silversides, Bay Anchovie,
Crabs and Sand Bugs, grass shrimp, Herring, Hickory Shad, Lobster, Mackeral,
Menhaden (Bunker), Mullet, Mummichog (Killie), Porgie,
Seaworms, Shrimp, Squid, and Surf Clams.
Small snapper bluefish, and Spot will catch stripers.
 

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Thanks CC. You gave me an idea. As long as Im spending time putting this together. Why not shamelessly market them and let the site make a few bucks. In development. cool_blue.gif
Freshwater Lures
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Saltwater Long Cast Minnow - Blue Herring

The Crystal Minnow comes remarkably close to duplicating live baitfish and its erratic zig-zag, side-to-side, frantic wobbling motion is an instant turn-on to any gamefish.
It all started with a lightweight lure no one knew how to use, with a name no one knew how to pronounce. The back room of a south Minneapolis bait-and-tackle shop. A beat-up metal desk. And lots of enthusiasm.What began as a simple dream in 1959 has evolved into one of the fishing tackle industries most influential organizations. Based in Minnetonka, Minnesota, with companies in 12 countries and distribution in more than 130 countries, the Rapala-Normark Group is the largest fishing lure company in the world.The only Long Casting Wooden lure available on the market today. The weight transfer system design allows you to cast farther then ever before. When you cast the weight system transfer the weight to the back of the lure and lock it in place for a further flight. When the lure hit the water the weight transfer to the front of the lure and lock into place for an unhampered retrieve. So easy to use it has anglers casting like pro's right out of the box. Available in Mullet, Green Mullet, Blue Herring, Moss Bunker, Hot Pink, Hot Chartreuse, Redhead.
 

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Wow! What a great job icn___clap.gif If you can't get some ideals, and find some toys to jam in your tackle box on this thread "I feel sorry for ya!"

BTW.. Using fluke rigs for stingers on umbrellas has been HOT on the sweetwater

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Drum Rig Continued

Striperjim or anyone else, can you expound on the set up of the drum type rig? Is the weight supposed to be at the bottom and this type of rig free to glide up and down the line
Also, Where are some good places to pick up the materials for making tub n worms? Do they work in fresh water situations? As long as they are, it would seem to me that since stripers like to hit the head of their prey, that they would miss the hook on the long worm. Any thoughts on this?
 

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Thanks CC. You gave me an idea. As long as Im spending time putting this together. Why not shamelessly market them and let the site make a few bucks. In development. cool_blue.gif
Freshwater Lures
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Saltwater Long Cast Minnow - Blue Herring[/URL]

The Crystal Minnow comes remarkably close to duplicating live baitfish and its erratic zig-zag, side-to-side, frantic wobbling motion is an instant turn-on to any gamefish.
It all started with a lightweight lure no one knew how to use, with a name no one knew how to pronounce. The back room of a south Minneapolis bait-and-tackle shop. A beat-up metal desk. And lots of enthusiasm.What began as a simple dream in 1959 has evolved into one of the fishing tackle industries most influential organizations. Based in Minnetonka, Minnesota, with companies in 12 countries and distribution in more than 130 countries, the Rapala-Normark Group is the largest fishing lure company in the world.The only Long Casting Wooden lure available on the market today. The weight transfer system design allows you to cast farther then ever before. When you cast the weight system transfer the weight to the back of the lure and lock it in place for a further flight. When the lure hit the water the weight transfer to the front of the lure and lock into place for an unhampered retrieve. So easy to use it has anglers casting like pro's right out of the box. Available in Mullet, Green Mullet, Blue Herring, Moss Bunker, Hot Pink, Hot Chartreuse, Redhead.
is there herring lure like this but for freshwater, or it does it matter?
 

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Popping plugs or surface lures are most effective during low light conditions such as dawn or dusk.
Metal lures, such as Kastmasters or Hopkins are best during bright sunlight conditions.
Swimming lures, both shallow swimmers and deep divers work best during the day when fish are less likely to come to the surface to feed and at night when they are close to the bottom and less active.
Bucktail Jigs and eel lures like the sluggo and tube and worm take fish during both day and night. These should be worked along the bottom at an extremely slow retrieve even better when a piece of pork rind or squid strip is added to the hook.

Plugs 101 Essentials for the surf.
You should have at least these for your surf arsenal.

Chicken scratch A-Salt Bomber
Creek Chub Striper strike
Acme Kastmasters
Hopkins No Equal Spoon
Atom Striper Swiper
Crippled herring tin
Luhr Jenson-Needle Fish.
Luhr Jensen - Krocodile 1oz. Chrome
Baby Striper A-Salt Bomber
Mambo Minnow

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Bucktails 3/4" to 1 - 1/2"
Storm shads sizes and patterns
 

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Rigging a soft plastic​

Video by Arts and Flies​

YouTube - Loading a Cotton Cordell Redfin
Steve McKenna shows how to successfully load the Redfin​

Master surf angler Steve McKenna currently writes for On The Water magazine and can usually be found, when not fishing, at Quaker Lane Bait & Tackle in North Kingstown Rhode Island.​
 

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The Little Neck Popper made by Super Strike is one of the most
well-known and productive topwater lures for bass, bluefish and
weakfish in the Northeast Atlantic.
It works as well from surf or boat.
Extreme long distance casting. Made of extremely durable
and rugged plastic that will withstand the toothiest fish. Will
work anywhere on any kind of inshore saltwater surface-feeding
gamefish that takes such type lures.

Super Strike Little Neck Poppers come in multiple model weights
ands lengths. The 2-3/8 oz sinking swimmer is the most
popular and productive.
Not only does this model of Super Strike Little Neck pop perfectly in all
kinds of surface conditions from smooth to wave-tossed, but this model has the knack to swim much like a bottle plug when retrieved between pops.
There are few other poppers that do this so well. Highly effective is a
three part retrieve rhythm: Sweep the rod to pop it,
Bow the rod momentarily to pause it to let it sink under a bit,
Reel it to swim several feet back up to top before repeating the sequence


Bottle plugs and darters go hand in hand.
Like darters, bottle plugs develop a zigzagging
swimming action in strong sweeping currents.
Bottle plugs are most at home off deep beaches
and off sand or gravel bars that drop off quickly to deep water.
A strong, steady cross-tide sweep is the ideal situation for swimming
bottle plugs
Darters work best in moving water, such as a tide rip or inlet.
 

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The dropper loop is very usefull for tying hi low bottom rigs or
when game fish are feeding selectively on small bait, attach a small teaser fly, or other lure ahead of a larger, heavier spoon, jig or plug. The system has several advantages. One, the small lure can precisely imitate the size and shape of the natural bait. Two, the larger lure provides weight for casting distance and keeps the rig below the surface. Three, the rig presents the illusion of a medium-sized baitfish chasing an even smaller baitfish, which may draw attention to the rig or trigger a competitive feeding instinct in the game fish.

You can keep the loop intact or cut one "leg" of dropper loop and tie on teaser

Dropper loop​
 

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Re: The Dropper Loop for Tying on a teaser and hi Low rigs

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Surf rig or the Hi Lo Rig

This illustration shows two dropper loops tied to a length of mono with the pyramid weight ahead of the line.
Bank sinkers are more aerodynamic and less snaggy for rocks while the pyramid is a good one for a sandy bottom

 

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Saltwater Rod Manufacturers
How much do you want to spend?
E glass -- Where toughness, durability and cost are factors
S glass -- casting rods for light line and lures
graphite -- the next step up from s glass but more prone to breakage than fiberglass
composite -- combination of glass and graphite

Action
Extra Fast: Flex in the upper 1/4 of the rod blank
Fast: Flex in the upper 1/3 of the rod blank
Moderate: Flex in the upper 1/2 of the rod blank
Slow: Flex is from the lower 1/3 of the rod blank to the tip
Power Ratings
Ultralight
Light
Medium
Medium Heavy
Heavy

Under 50 bucks. Manufactured overseas.
Shakespeare ugly stick
Silistar
Ande
Eagle claw
Shimano
Okuma
Quantum
Penn
Over 50 bucks
Commonly referred to as el cheapo heaver rods. Manufactured overseas
Tsunami Rods
Tica rods
Daiwa
Fenwick
> $100
Lamiglas rods
St Croix
Breakaway Usa
G - Loomis
All Star
Cal Star Rods
Rain Shadow
Anyfishanywhere Rods
 

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i was in my local tackle shop, when the owner talked me out of buying a gibbs danny style plug, and talked me into buying a football jacks bass thum plug ,yellow top white bottom...twice the price...but he said it kills off the beach...any opinions
 

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buying a football jacks bass thumb plug
I would think that it would be an excellent plug. He's one of the Vendors at the Asbury Park Fishing show.
The best builders in the entire northeast sell their stuff there.
 

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i have a crystal minnow yozuri and i cant cast the thing more than like 10ft, do ppl add lead tape or what?
 

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i have a crystal minnow yozuri and i cant cast the thing more than like 10ft, do ppl add lead tape or what?
The yozuri five inch is an ounce at best. So you need a lighter rod rated for around 1/2 to 1-1/2 ounces or one rated in the 3/4 to 2-1/4 ounce category. Usually these are around 7 and 1/2 feet.
You could burn a pin hole in it and load it with a few ccs of water and seal it back up for a bit more distance to experiment a bit.
 
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