Penn, I still have some from when my dad bought them for me in the late 50's early 60's. I like that there esy to work on and maintain. I do have a Shimano stradic, I like the real , smooth, but not easy to work on. Penns have never let me down. The only one I'm leary on is my Slammer IV 6500 , it cast great but the drag is eratic, lt's like it has 2 stages to the drag. But it gets the job done. Tight lines.