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You're better off confronting them in person when you see it happening and asking if they're aware of the regulations.
Personally I'm all for conservation, don't have a problem with the 10 herring or striper slot sizes. Although, I think gill net aside, it's silly that you can't scap in a creek. 10 herring is 10 herring. That's about on par with them saying you couldn't take "creek herring" and use them in the river or "river herring" and use them in the creekbrick.gif
Regardless, for those that do, it's not worth the ticket. Adapt and overcome.
 

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You're better off confronting them in person when you see it happening and asking if they're aware of the regulations.
Personally I'm all for conservation, don't have a problem with the 10 herring or striper slot sizes. Although, I think gill net aside, it's silly that you can't scap in a creek. 10 herring is 10 herring. That's about on par with them saying you couldn't take "creek herring" and use them in the river or "river herring" and use them in the creekbrick.gif
Regardless, for those that do, it's not worth the ticket. Adapt and overcome.
The only one Im not a fan of is the herring thing. I like to refresh bait often. a fishing trip could last me an hour if i refreshed the way i like to. With that said, the ten harring rule has to be the least enforced rule in the book. A buddy of mine kept 6 herring last year at the end of the day and put them in a bag in the bottom of his bait tank. Next day got checked on the water and was nervous cause he had that bag in the boat and his limit in his tank. The guy didn't even look in the tank let alone ask how many herring were on board.
 

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I agree with you Bub! Who cares how I catch them as long as I am not taking more then 10 as the law states. I do not net in the creeks now because that is how the law reads. It's as crazy as the size limit. I am for the slot regulation but why should the guys south of the G.W. be able to keep the same fish we have to throw back?
 

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I agree with you Bub! Who cares how I catch them as long as I am not taking more then 10 as the law states. I do not net in the creeks now because that is how the law reads. It's as crazy as the size limit. I am for the slot regulation but why should the guys south of the G.W. be able to keep the same fish we have to throw back?
Just a guess but above the GW the goal is specifically to protect the spawning fish.
 

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Tons of herring in Greene today. 8 at a time in the scap net.
 

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I don't think all herring are the same. I seem to have much better success when I use blueback herring as opposed to alewives. Anyone below Albany finding them yet?
I also notice quite a bit of difference when it comes to bait. The bigger the bait the more chunks i get that's how i see it because if they get to a certain size i wont even use them live. Im assuming that the bluebacks are the smaller of the two? I may be wrong but that's been my experience.
 

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I also notice quite a bit of difference when it comes to bait. The bigger the bait the more chunks i get that's how i see it because if they get to a certain size i wont even use them live. Im assuming that the bluebacks are the smaller of the two? I may be wrong but that's been my experience.
Ive noticed no preference over the years. The only thing I can say is the smaller they are the easier to swallow.
Bluebacks are the smaller narrower ones, but many people have trouble telling the difference between them and a small alewive . If you're chunking, you'll notice that the bluebacks have a dark body cavity.
 

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Ive noticed no preference over the years. The only thing I can say is the smaller they are the easier to swallow.
Bluebacks are the smaller narrower ones, but many people have trouble telling the difference between them and a small alewive . If you're chunking, you'll notice that the bluebacks have a dark body cavity.
Iv all but given up fishing chunk bait. The cats are relentless and just get too anoying for me.
 

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Iv all but given up fishing chunk bait. The cats are relentless and just get too anoying for me.
Ive hear ya. I shrugged it off for a long time myself. These days I always have out live and chunk at the same time. There's been many times where the live would sit untouched all day while I caught fish after fish on chunk. Dealing with the cats and eels can be a PITA, but I feel like I'm cutting my chances by not using it.
 

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Iv all but given up fishing chunk bait. The cats are relentless and just get too anoying for me.
Been having the same problem. fwiw a fella gave me a tip the other night. He suggested a typical fish finder setup, but with a 3ft leader and small float down near the hook to keep it off the bottom away from the cats and eels. haven't tried it yet, but planning to Saturday.
 

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Went south from Albany today, marked some on the FF but spotty, did not bite. Regarding the cats, they will kill the live herring pretty quick so fishing just live is no panacea. The channel cats are an invasive species, 20 years ago there used to be nothing but black and brown bullheads, now they are virtually gone. My opinion? The channels wiped out the shad, and the herring are next. The population will crash and we're all gonna' die.
 

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All I know is I have no issues with the cats when fishing live but as soon as chunk hits the bottom they are there and the rod tips bouncing. its annoying. Fished yesterday for a couple hours with chunk and the rod tips didn't stop. Got one cat that managed to snare its self in my line other then that a dead screen.
 
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