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Dutchman landing is probably your best bet if you're not great with a trailer. Lots of room
 

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Damn near impossible to stoolie herring this morning. I was north of kingston and forgot my sibiki rigs. Is anyone else having a hard time with bait around the kingston/Saugerties area? It seems like the nice weather scared them off. I figured they would be spawning like crazy with these warmer days. Any ideas? I gave up after 3 hours.
 

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Damn near impossible to stoolie herring this morning. I was north of kingston and forgot my sibiki rigs. Is anyone else having a hard time with bait around the kingston/Saugerties area? It seems like the nice weather scared them off. I figured they would be spawning like crazy with these warmer days. Any ideas? I gave up after 3 hours.
SAME here to the north ... didn't see a single follower, and water color/depth were perfect . So went out and they were easy to jig anyway.
 

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I'm a bit north of there but it was the same situation up by me. Two of us busted our ass to scap up a couple. When we went from 25fow out there was one huge school after another. Had no issues jigging them up. Don't forget your sabiki!
 

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Hey Baha man,

Albany has good access from 787 and a good launch. Rensselaer looks good but it is gravel lower down, I saw some people struggling with front wheel drives at low tide.

Schodack island is good but getting through or around Hudson might not appeal to you.

Avoid Hudson, tricky to get to and launch from.

HH is nice but as said, can be busy. That's more of a walk to the truck problem than a congestion problem at the ramp.

I have avoided everything between HH and catskill because they are, or appear to be, smaller and tighter from the descriptions.

There's nothing worth mentioning north of Albany and Rensselaer.

I could be missing something
 

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I'm a bit north of there but it was the same situation up by me. Two of us busted our ass to scap up a couple. When we went from 25fow out there was one huge school after another. Had no issues jigging them up. Don't forget your sabiki!
I seem to always forget something. Unfortunately it made for a fishless trip. Still was a beautiful morning either way. Any thoughs on what caused the herring to go deep and stay away from shore? The past 2 days there were some around to catch.
 

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I seem to always forget something. Unfortunately it made for a fishless trip. Still was a beautiful morning either way. Any thoughs on what caused the herring to go deep and stay away from shore? The past 2 days there were some around to catch.
I'm not sure. I only tried to scap before and as the sun was coming up. I couldn't tell you if it got any better from shore as the day went on. It was pretty chilly out. Maybe that had something to do with it.
 

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A sabiki rig. Preferably with no wings of tassels. My go to is the "Wally Whale". Use whatever weight is necessary to get it down. I like to put a stoolie on the end of mine for an extra attractant. I can't give an exact depth or location in the water as it changes. If you're in a boat use your electronics.
 

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What's the best method for jigging up the herring??

Thanks for the help.
I'm kind of a noob but I do it differently than people I watch and I get better results than I see when I watch others.

I jig the sabiki rig from my boat straight down. I jig it in short continuous pulses, perhaps 10" pulls, probably less than 1 second per pulse; or as long as it takes my 3 ounce wait to fall back down the 10". I don't cast unless I'm shore fishing, in which case I do the same pulsing as the weight drops through the water.

I jig all through the water column from 10' down, starting at the bottom for less than a minute, then reel up 5' for a minute, then up 5' again. I'm rarely jigging for more than a couple minutes.

I've seen people struggling around me, both on shore and on boats. I start jigging and in a few minutes I catch a few herring for folks or catch them a bunch. Reds have worked earlier, greens later; greens are generally better especially when visibility is better.

I don't use the frilly rigs and I don't add a larger attractor to it as I see some people do.

I haven't been using my live well since I seem to be able to catch them at will.

Hope that helps!
 

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...and I made these.... They just make it easier to pull them out and use them without dealing with the hooks, since they reel into the PVC. It makes the short jigs a little easier because its stiff. I only found them at one bait shop but they were $80 a piece so I made a couple for $30.
 

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...and I made these.... They just make it easier to pull them out and use them without dealing with the hooks, since they reel into the PVC. It makes the short jigs a little easier because its stiff. I only found them at one bait shop but they were $80 a piece so I made a couple for $30.
That's brilliant...how did you attach them to the rod?
 

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There is a YouTube video of a guy making one.

It is heavy but I never cast with it, and never need to jig for long. Also I wanted something cheap so I can leave it in my boat throughout the season and not worry about it being stolen. I keep the boat in a lot so it would be easy to take. I l also wanted one less thing to put in the jeep when I am done, and it is one less pole to break down.
 

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...and I made these.... They just make it easier to pull them out and use them without dealing with the hooks, since they reel into the PVC. It makes the short jigs a little easier because its stiff. I only found them at one bait shop but they were $80 a piece so I made a couple for $30.
I use an ultralight trout rod for jigging herring because i like feeling them bite and fighting them, but I was considering getting or making a sabiki rod to deal with the hooks. How sensitive are they? I'm assuming you can't feel subtle hits and too strong to really have a fight with the fish?
 

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I use an ultralight trout rod for jigging herring because i like feeling them bite and fighting them, but I was considering getting or making a sabiki rod to deal with the hooks. How sensitive are they? I'm assuming you can't feel subtle hits and too strong to really have a fight with the fish?
I can feel them hit. I feel one, two, then three or more then I pull them up. It's not like fighting with a flexible rod though. Also I lose more of them than I probably would on a flexy rod.
 

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Maybe one of the Mods can put up a new thread for 2017 Herring reports as they have entered the mouth of the Hudson this week.
 
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