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Old 04-06-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default How to: build a Danny style swimmer.

This will be a multipost/part project, first a little history.
This stream line suface swimmer along with the Atom 40 and Pikie minnow is one of the most popular and consistant fish takers evermade.

The two men most accociated with the Lure are Donny Musso and Danny Pinkney, both men made a killer plug that could lure trophy bass to the surface both day and night.

Here is my build.
I like this plug early in the spring when bass are on herring.

Items I will use here are a 1 3/4 X 1 3/4 X 8 1/2" blank of western red cedar, white cedar,Alaskan yellow cedar or even pine all make fine specimins, you may have to alter the weight.

you will need a lenght of SS wire, two #1 barrel swivels ( I use Krok SS rated at 500lbs)1 , 5 gram belly weight,one large danny style swim lip two belly grommets, I am presently using . 341 for this application and one tail grommet .425 dia.

Hardware can be purchased at New Jersey tackle or Cape cod tackle, lumber can be bought at most "real" lumber yards, I buy 4"X4"X12' cedar posts and cut amd rip them to size.

A word about safety, secure all loose clothing,keep your lathe tools sharp, wear eye protection (face shield prefered) and protect your lungs....

You will need a roughing gouge, a skew and a parting tool, you will also need a pair of calipers and a set of verniers or a tape measure, a back or coping saw, an awl and a 3"X1/8 drill bit also a 1/8 X6" drill bit
a drill press and a drill chuck for you lathe are handy, but a hand drill will work, it just is ALOT more difficult, you will also need a 3/8 and 1/2 forshner bit.. there will be other Items, that I will think of latter








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Old 04-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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oh boy a step by step by master yoda!!!! this is gonna be good fellas.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:49 PM
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I'm loving this, I just built a kit Danny, hanging the hooks on it today & will post pics, but a step by step from the Roc is like candy to a baby, I hope I can wait till the Fall to buy a lathe, I can feel the urge to spend money comin' on.
Especially since the weather has gone to S&%T for the foreseeable future.

I'm good with the first 3 pictures, the 4th has me going "Hmmmmm.............."
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:08 PM
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I'm going to follow along and build one. I'm trying to locate the large Danny lip. Cape Code tackle shows a small and mdium. NJ tackle has a Danny 2-L stlye. Which do I pick up?

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Old 04-06-2007, 01:17 PM
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Zeema. the #2 is good. on ones tht are little larger than this, I use a lefty 2 mid slot, it's a tad wider and drives the bigger plug a little better... #2 is fine for this build.
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:27 PM
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hey ed, i was wondering what the hell rocs got there in that third pic down too...is that a saw blade glued in that thing joe?
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:40 PM
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To continue, a few more items that you will need is a variety of sand paper, 80, 120 ,220 , and maybe some 400, you also need some filler, I use Elmer's 2 part epoxy wood repair, it's water proof and bullet proof.

I'll discuss sealer, paint and clear coat latter in the build...

Take your stock and find the centers, the jig I have in the previous photos shows a center finder made of a hacksaw blade sunk kitty corner in a block of wood, place any size stock, round or square on the blade and whack it with a hammer, rotate 1/4 turn and repeat, mark the center with an awl where the lines intersect, flip 180 and repeat.

Lets begin by chucking the blank in the lathe, using you roughing gouge ( the U shaped one) round out your stock.

Once you have rounded out your stock measure out 8" along the blank, I prefer to have the square end at the head and taper the tail to the tail stock...

Starting from the head you are going to make marks at 2 1/8,3 5/8 and another at 5 1/8, spin the lathe and lightly touch these marks with a pencil....

The finished dimensions of your plug (after sanding) should be 3/4" on the nose, first mark 1 1/4, middle mark 1 5/16 and last mark at 1 1/4 tapering the tail to 5/8 of an inch, using your skew rough out the tail taper, it doesn't have to be real close, just the basic taper, this will aid you in laying out the plug, now using your parting tool, bring each line into specs (be sure to leave approx 1/8 for final sanding, I can go to 1/16 with sharp tools) remember, you can take off more wood, you cant put it back on, using your calipers, set each thickness to your comfortable thickness, once that is done, rough out your plug with your skew.
you should now have something that resembles a plug, sand it with #80, then 150 to bring it close to specs.
Now lay out you marks one more time,adding a mark at 1 1/4" if you desire to add eyes, spin the lathe and touch the marks with a pencil....












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Old 04-06-2007, 02:06 PM
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Remove from the lathe and cut off the square end, clamp the plug in a wood workers vise ( or something to restrain it) locate the center of the nose, draw a straight line across (I use the lip) and also mark the depth of the cut, using a back saw or coping saw ( some guys use the band saw) cut the lip slot, now fit your lip, if your diameters are good, the width of the lip will be EXACTLY the same width as the lip, slip it into the plug, center it and mark the through wire slot/hole with an awl, at this point you will notice that the through wire hole is BELOW center... you didn't make a mistake, that position makes this plug a surface swimmer....

Now go to your drill press,looking at the pictures you will see a maple board mounted on my drill table, it houses a 1/4 dowel center that has been drilled in the wood, I use a 1/8 steel rod to line up the drill head and table, now I can drill my plug,I have a series of blocks that I use to "step" the plug so I dont have to keep moving the table, it also allow me to drill deeper into the plug ...
Starting with a 3" long 1/8 drill bit, place the tail of the plug over the dowel center(if you turned the plug the way I showed the tail stock already centered the hole) the belly of the plug facing you, bring the bit down to just touch the mark you made with the awl... start the drill (run at a slow to moderate speed) be sure to clear chips, once the drill bottoms out flip the plug and repeat....

Now you can put a 6" bit in the drill press( you may have to install the drill bit in the plug if your table is short) and again drill from each end, or you can drill it through with your lathe....

It's time to make you belly holes, I use a jig to hold my plugs, you can use v blocks or drill vise... the jig works better... now using a 1/2" forsner bit, spot face the two belly holes about 1/16 (depending on the style of your belly grommets) you will be spot facing the second hole from the nose, if you made eye marks, you will also be spot facing the line nearest the tail, make sure they are centered on the plug, by using a fence on my drill press and the jig, everything comes in automatically, no measuring or eyeballing, once you have you two belly holes spot faced, change to a 3/8 forshner bit, now drill your two "hook " holes just past center, drill the weight hole (the middle one between the hooks) about 7/16" deep...







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here are the rest of the pics to go with the above post.

once the belly holes are drilled now mark your eye.

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now take you plug and fit in the belly weight, I use a 5 gram weight, it is around 1/4 ounce, it fits the hole snugly, I usualy set it on a a padded V block and press it into place using my drill press and a piece of 3/8 threaded rod...

Now fill the hole, I use the Elmers wood repair 2 part epoxy putty,it is water proof and is not affected by the sealing process, if you want to use regular wood putty, wait until after the plug is sealed and cement the weight in place with 5 minute epoxy....

let the plug sit overnight, then sand the putty with 80 grit until it is close to the contour of the body, then finish the entire plug with #220

There are several methods of sealing, I still use Boiled linseed oil, mixed 60/40 with mineral spirits, a word of warning here, any rags used to wipe up the oil must be put in water or dried outside then disposed of as they do offer a threat of spontaneous combustion... personaly I wipe with paer towels and flush them down the toilet....
some gys use Val oil, I have no experience with it and have no issues with the BLO....

the last picture is of te set up I use to dip and seal plugs... a 15-20 minute soak is good enough for Cedar plugs, I've cut open samples that had soaked for different lengths of time up to a week, after 15-20 minutes, the penetration is all the same...

after 4-7 days, the sealer will be dry, we will continue our build then, right up to the clear coat...









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great thread joe!!! hey floatsum...pay attention.
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I'm looking at all that nice equipment Joe has spread around his shop and I finally recognized one piece I already own.....the red plastic Folgers coffee can in the last picture. I love those things, use 'em, for everything.
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great thread joe!!! hey floatsum...pay attention.
My attention IS totally undivided! (S)
15 minute soak - okay, works for me. (I was at that point too.)
I'm looking forward to how the total weight and balance is determined.
,,,, and I think I see a new bookmark happening.
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The sealer is now dried, a light sanding with 320 or 400 paper confirms it.

I have added a step to my process, I now dip my plugs in binz sanding sealer, it is shellac based but very thin, I allow it a minute to soak in to the plug and wipe off the excess, I have found that by adding this step it leads to better adhesion of the primer, after drying ( an hour) I then dip the plug in primer, once the primers has set, I run a wire through the plug to clean out the hole, if you omit running the wire the primer will clog the through hole,and re drilling will be needed, thus negating the advantage of dipping the plug...

Once the primer has cured 24 hours,sand with #400 and then, you can then start painting..

I use mostly Delta Ceramacoat or Anita's... basically what AC Moor has on sale. Mixed 50/50 it serves my need... These are water based acrylics.

first 2 base coats of white, when the white is dry, I then paint the belly ( on this particular plug it's pearlized white) once the belly is dry I paint my lateral line.

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I ve been spraying my cedar and cherry plugs with auto . sandable primer , then dipping in easypoxy (petit) . iget a very glossy finish . ever tried it ?
i havent epoxeyed over any yet . do you think i need to ? I'll post some pix soon . your work is awesome .
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