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Old 06-14-2005, 09:46 AM
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Hi All,

Maybe someone could help me out with a knot question.

I'm tying a Hi-Lo rig using two Dropper Loops ~ 18" apart, 16" to a barrel swivel on top to main line, another 18" to a snap swivel on bottom to sinker. Is there an easy and secure way to attach the hooks directly to the loop without additional line?

Loop thru the eye, twist, lasso the hook..... Something like that?

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Old 06-14-2005, 10:40 AM
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Blue. The loops can be made long enough to attach a hook directly to the loop. You can use the palomar to tie the hook to the loop.


A better method of forming a loop, or loops, in the line above the sinker is to use the old Dropper Loop. This draws into a knot that stands out at right angles to the line. If desired, the loops can be made long enough to have a hook set on them.

The Palomar Knot
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Our new knot pages are Thanks to animated knots by Grog.
Heres our Knot page

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The seaguar knot for joining a leader to standing line.
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Updated Knot page
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I guess I'm the only one that uses the Homer Rhodes knot?
I looked for something to show as to post it here,, but the only one I found that can be cut and pasted is shown wrong (or at least not the way I tie it).

PS; I'm board, maybe I'll photo my version and post it?
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Floats.
It looks very similar to the
rapala knot
Heres an animated one from noreast.com
http://www.noreast.com/knots/knotspage3.cfm
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Jim,
That's one of the ones I saw on the net. But, it's a bit different than the way I was shown and have been using.
The top knot is,,,, backwards(?)
The way I'm using it you can undo and change lures and redo without any cutting or such with 40+# leader material.
Having used it for years I've found it to be almost failsafe.
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Who could recommend the best knots for attaching braid to braid?
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Who could recommend the best knots for attaching braid to braid?
Use a blood knot Just double the line before tying. Alternately a double uni
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Important knot tying tips.
Monofilament
A critical factor in obtaining proper knot strength is to maintain tight and even pressure while tying the knot.
Your finished knot coils should be tight and neat looking. If you have any overlays or funny looking coils, cut the line and start over, as these will drasticaly rduce the knot strength.
One of the secrets of a well formed knot is moisture which lubricates and will properly set the wraps for a stronger knot.
To increase your knot strength by as much as 20%, use any lubricant spray, liquid or hand and lure cleaner, or fish attracting oil. Anything but saliva as research has shown that this will decrease knot strength because it is a digestive enzyme.
With heavy monofilament use a rag or a glove to grip the standing part of the line, hold the tag end on the hook with a pair of plyers. Use a lubricant on the knot and pull steady until the knot is drawn up tight. With real heavy line you will not be able to tighten the knot properly by hand.

Superbraid
These super strong lines are three to four times stronger than monofilament of the same diameter. With less than 5% stretch [up to 30% with mono] sensitivity is drastically increased and you will be able to feel the instant a fish bites your lure or bait. Hook setting is virtually instantaneous even when jigging at greater depths.
Being much more abrasion resistent, they will last many times longer than mono. Most of the super braids float, absorb very little water and remain limp without any memory. Top water bass fishermen prefer them by a wide margin over mono. Fly fishermen like the fact that when they use super braid for backing they are able to keep the line out of the water while fighting fish.
The super braids are very slick and slip a lot more than mono and can knife down into the reel if not wound tightly onto the reel while spooling. Extensive testing by line manufacturers have shown an average of 25% loss of knot strenght. when tying knots with super braids it is of utmost importance that the wraps sit tightly together and your lines are not crossed. If they are notstart over.
Allow 4 or 5 more wraps than you normally would with mono When drawing up the knot use a rag or a glove to grip the standing part of the line, grip the tag end or hook with a pair of pliers and pull to set the knot. You will not be able to tighten the knot properly by hand. Leave tag ends at least a quarter inch long and use a sharp pair of scissors to trim tags. (fiskers work well)

From the Little red knot fishing book by Harry Nilsson
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Number of Wraps or Coils to use for each line strength with Mono Line

Up to 10 lbs test use 6 to 7 wraps
For Lines 12 to 18 lbs test use 5 to 6 wraps
For Lines 20 to 30 lbs test use 3 to 4 wraps
For Heavy lines 50 to 100 lbs test use 3 to 4 wraps.
Anything less can reult in a failed knot

When tying a knot around a hook shank (snelled) always begin wrap away from the hook eye connection, so the sharp edge cannot cut the line during battle with a heavy fish

Do not trim your knots flush up against the wraps, as with all knots will to a greater or lesser degree slip slightly.
With light lines leave the tag length about 1/16"
With medium lines leave an 1/8"
With heavy lines leave about 1/4"

After battling a heavy fish you will find the exposed tag about half the length you started with
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Default Knot Instruction.

Easy knots for the beginner. Practice so you can tie them in the dark.

The improved Clinch Knot. For attaching your line to the swivel.

The Palomar knot.
The recommended knot for attaching braid to the plug / hook or to the swivel.

The simple snell using the uni knot.

Thread six inches of line through the eye of the hook.
Hold the line against the hook's shank, and form a Uni-Knot circle


Make five to seven turns through the loop and around the standing line and hook's shank.


Tighten by pulling the standing line in one direction and the tag end in the other



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