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Old 03-06-2007, 08:08 AM
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First Pic, an oversize giant pikie, 16" @ 5.5 ounces

A pair of Conrad style plugs a small darter (5") a small surfster and a Danny..

The Raibow trout, is approx 12" long and weighs 3 ounces, it was offcenter turned and the stand was made from sheet acrylic glued together with plastic epoxy...
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:27 AM
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Nice,i like you have been busy making plugs,even got my girlfriend into it..lol
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:16 PM
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Nice stuff Rock, love the rainbow trout
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:19 PM
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Thanks Suds, I sent that to Digger...
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:23 PM
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Thanks Suds, I sent that to Digger...
I'll be damned! Then that's the one I had in my hand the other day - It's even prettier in person
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:15 AM
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Here's a picture we took of it

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:32 AM
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Digger said he was going gaurd all the display plugs from potential Ho's at the food fling .. didnt figure you'd be one of them LOL... Thanks for posting it, I took a dozen pics, none came out worth S^*&! The camera I lost that night on the hook took way better pictures.

Heres a few more I took off the spinner last night...I made a few adjustment to the camera settings
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:37 AM
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the master...priceless!!!
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:45 AM
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Roc, do you have a setup to do bottles or do you eyeball em individually??
I did one, ruined a whole lot of blanks before I got the face to come out the way I wanted.

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Figured it's too much hassle, it's a lot easier to just buy Gibbs. I'd be willing to make more, but only if there's an easy and consistant way to duplicate the face.

If you have a system we should take it to a new thread.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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Sudsy,

I do have a template I made out of tape and foil, once I got one to swim the way I wanted I made a foil and tape template of the face... same with the body, once I got the sizes i wanted, I made a template for the duplicator...Biggest thing is the flare on the cheeks, make sure it extends beyond the centerline....

I've had some probvlems with the Gibbs bottle rolling over in fast water, nmot al of them some of them....

Next time I set things up I'll take a fw pictures and start a new thread
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:15 PM
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I've had some probvlems with the Gibbs bottle rolling over in fast water, nmot al of them some of them....

Next time I set things up I'll take a fw pictures and start a new thread
One thing I've learned is to look carefully at the face before leaving the store with it - I've come across a lot more then one that was off center, a few times by quite a bit. Those are the ones that will roll out.

I'll look forward to seeing how you do the face
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:29 PM
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I've never bought one, I've seen other guys on the beach have the problem, and it's exactly like you said, offcenter, I also believe that Gibbs doesnt weight the chin, I do... IMHO it is a huge advantage in a screaming rip to have that puppy dig right in...
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Well, since you guys brought up the bottle plugs, I'd like to ask if Roc has any dimensions for his bottles, I lost mine last week and no amount of casting to try to snag it would bring it back.....but I am on my way towards total plug building obsession, right now just working with purchased blanks, airbrush is on it's way to me, and my bench is covered with wires, grommets, hooks, swivels, eyes, and sealed blanks drying up, waiting for me to splatter paint on them. It's too late this season to buy the lathe and drillpress, but they're coming, by next winter I should be in fullblown plug building madness mode.
So, I just bought a fairly nice bottle at the Berkeley show, and a bunch of other stuff as well, but I would like to make it a mission to recreate one of Roc's bottles...I had a 40-50 fish day this past fall with that plug and a teaser, it was more fun than an adult should be allowed to have.
So anyway, if you have some dimensions, great, if not, I might have some pictures of that one I can scale and wing it....weight info would be good too
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:22 PM
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Lets see if we can figure this out.

That looks like a Mustad 3x hook and bottles being fairly large means it's probably a 5/0

A 5/0 Mustad is 2" long

If the hook is 2" that means the plug is just a hair over 8" long and 1 1/2" wide at the thickest point

If it's a Mustad 4/0 then it's closer to 7" and 1 1/4" wide
Assuming it's a 1/2" eye I'm leaning towards the plug being 7" with a 4/0 hook

Am I close ??
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:14 AM
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Ed, I saw you lurking around on NJ Tackles sight... your in trouble now... welcome to the madness!

Suds your pretty close, I use 4/0 belly hooks and a 7/0 tail, I start witha 8 1/2" blank 1 3/4" in diameter and use most of it, going from memory (I have all my demensions on index cards when a plug works the way I want it to) the head of the plug and the shoulder are approx 1 3/8" in diameter the tail is between 5/8 and 3/4 depending on if I want a fatter profile, I make the lip 1" wide, the top is back 1" and the "cheeks" about 1 1/4", the face is formed on a drum sander...
using a 1/4 step drill I drill down through the plug from the tail almost to the hook, I inset my wire and pour the lead in about 2/3 of the way back, the slug ends up weighing about 1/2 ounce, when the lead is cooled, I pull the wire and fill with epoxy putty, a tiny slug of lead about 1/4 ounce is inseterted just behind the hook and another in the chin, using cedar it just barley floats but casts like a bullet and digs in ev3n in the roughest of water.. it took a little practice and a few junk blanks(crappy pine fronpallets scoffed from work) to perfect it, to much weight and alot of the action is lost, not enough and casting distance is lost as well as stability and the ability to dig in a strong rip...

Here's a few more i rigged last night, a pair of Jointeds, the giant is 16" long 1 1/2" in diameter and weighs a little over 6 ounces.. I plan to troll for footbal tuna with it.. the plug with it is an offcenter turned 14" eel with a cut for an eelskin.... it weighs 3 ounces

also in the mix are a 5" surfster, a 8" mackerel darter made of maple and an offcenter turn conrad style plug, made of cedar and sports a #2 pikie lip, it weighs 2 ounces... I havent swum that one yet, normaly I use a lefty mid slot on it and bend the sides up to help it dig,I want to see the change in the action....
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