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Old 05-17-2007, 11:34 PM
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a friend of mine dropped off some flies...he uses them as teasers..he explained how to rig them when he dropped them off...im gonna give them a whirl...and he also loaded some cordell pencil poppers..friggin rockets..they rattle like hell too.

i made the plugs in the second pic, a 10" jointed pike style swimmer..perfect for trolling the mouth on the way out to get real macks, a 4" popper and some freshwater jitterbugs for the bucket mouths.
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:24 AM
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Jimme-
Some interesting (very doable) flies given to you there.
Are you going to tie them on as droppers? I've had very good results with a dropper set up and lure.
You probably already know, but a surgeons knot dropper helps avoid tangling very well as opposed to a standard loop style.
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:38 AM
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i didnt know that...this year will be my first try at using a dropper...so your saying use a surgeons knot to tie the fly to the swivel? please explain....
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:50 PM
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Errr, not really,,,
Let me see if I can come up with an illustration(?) in the daylight.
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:29 PM
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my friend told me to use a leader about 2' long and tie a second line/like a 3 way but using a regular swivel/leaving the dropper about 6 inches from the swivel. 0----------------------plug.
.............................................0-----dropper.
is this right? both lines tied to the same ring on the swivel....

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Old 05-19-2007, 02:53 AM
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I'll do ya a picture.
No snaps, no swivels. Tie direct, Swivel to main from leader,,, if you must (S).

PS; no fish tonight/morning
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:04 AM
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a pic would be cool....i would also be interested in seing a real sample......i got some things i could trade...
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I'll work something up today - promise.
No trade req'd!

It'll be partial payback for the plugs.

Glad to do it.
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:55 AM
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cool beans..
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:54 PM
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http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/PICT0178.jpg

The above is a copy in Photo Bucket. It maybe bigger or something. Click "Full View" in upper left(?).

I use flourocarbon, but probably any stiffer line/leader mat'l. will work. The stiffness holds the dropper away from the main line and I get very few tangles with this.
I've actually tied in 5 droppers to simulate a small school. Was a bit nasty casting from the rocks,, but I gotta say, it was fine from a trolling yak.
I've tried to illustrate what my set-up is with this (feel free to deviate / improve). Sometimes I'll add a bit of dubbing in the knot(s) to kind of make it look like a larger is attacking a smaller that is feeding on a worm or something (small to large is good).
When pulling the surgeon's knot, work up a nice fat juicy "hawker" for lube. Snug the knot up to fit in mouth, work the hawk into the knot while warming, and work it tight (dispose of remaining said "Hawker" appropriately).
I use no snaps or swivels at all and tie this setup to the main line with a "Alberto's Knot" (http://www.stripersonline.com/Pages/...tos_knot.shtml).
I also like loops on the fly and plug and using a older version of a "Homer Rhodes" (http://www.btinternet.com/%7Ekevin.l.j.knight/knot8.htm) I find I can untie, and retie without cutting the knot off. Kind of cool. I can only do that with stiffer leader material though. Snip the tag end with clippers on a angle to point the end for retying helps a lot.
I think that just about covers it(?). If I can offer more just ask and I'd be glad to.
PS; I don't like it. Going to put it in slide show (enlarged).
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Try this(?);
http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...rcher/dropper/

or this;
http://s34.photobucket.com/pbwidget....1&t=1179592652

One of them should work?
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holy crap...now thats a nice "how to" floatsum...i like,and see it clearly now...nice post.
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That was nice. I have never heard of this Homer Rhodes knot. Learning everyday.
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those pics and slideshows are so easy to follow...i was waiting for two hands to come out of my screen and tie em up for me...a two year old should be able to follow this...great post again...i was close in my thinking..i was figuring in a swivel...but i see how its not needed now.
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Default Re: some gifts and freshies...

Arrrrhhh, glad it was of help.
Nice to feel I've finally contributed something for all I've gotten from this site.
Have to give credit where credit is due though. It's a fly fishing set-up.
Ken Abrams and the crew use it quite a bit with 20#. I just "borrowed" the idea and applied it to tins and such.
thank for the kind words on "show and tell".

PS (added); If you're using spinning gear you probably would add a swivel between the running / main line and leader.
Sorry about that. I've been using conventional and fly tackle too much lately.
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