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Old 07-17-2005, 07:12 AM
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I was using #6 eagle claw, but I didn't think there was a big enough gap to hook a bigger fish so I switched to the #8. Also couldn't get much bait on without filling the hook up. But I was having better luck with the schoolies. To me a bigger bait = bigger fish, which you need a hook, but if there is not any big fish, I should settle for hooking all the small ones with a #6 hook. If a big fish hits a #5 or 6 will it do the job?? Dobb
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:35 AM
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Just remember, let the fish set the hook If you set it, you'll pull it right out of his mouth.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:42 AM
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I use 10/0 Owners almost exclusively but 8/0 Gamis are good too. I never go less than 8/0. What do you do if that 50 hits and all you have on is a 6/0 that has too small a gap to get around his jaw??

I've had my best hookup ratio on a high tie rig (High low without the low) deadsticked with at least an 8 oz sinker - you need the big sinker so the fish hooks himself even on an incoming hit.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:48 PM
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Your right, they have a big mouth. 8 to 10 are good.
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:21 PM
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Suds that 8 ounce sinker does make a lot of sense. Im gonna try your method next time out. :wtg:
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:44 PM
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I like the 7/0 Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp CIRCLE SEA hooks. Red, awesome gap, and a great bend in the shank for large pieces of bait. Some companies 8/0 circle hooks (like Owner for instance) are the same size as the Eagle Claw circle sea 7/0. With any other hook I would probably use an 8/0 when fishing the rocks/shore, but the Eagle Claws allow me to get away with the 7/0. It has proved to be the perfect hook for me :)



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Old 07-17-2005, 04:48 PM
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So I guess that's settled,,stay with the # 8 or bigger. Do you need the sliding sinker? I thought you did so the fish would have time to swallow the bait? Dobb
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:54 PM
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Your hooking them in the corner of the mouth - how deep does the bait really need to go ?

I'll go check out those Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp CIRCLE SEAs - sound interesting and they gotta be less $ than the Owners!
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:41 PM
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Ya, they are TIT (o)(o)

You should notice right off the bat how the shank is bent....not rounded like the Owners and others, but more of an "oval" bend. I really prefer this because of the way it allows me to use and position larger chunks. I cant use anything else, I have become dependent on them! LOL

Also, the Circle Sea is not an "octopus circle" hook (ie the eye is not bent).



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Old 07-17-2005, 11:25 PM
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one of your problems is your technique,you should not be playing with your drag....if it hasnt,it will cost you a large fish one day....set it 1/4 the lines breaking strength and leave it be,when using circles I use Owners or gami's, 6/0 for fillets 8/0 for chunks and livies,the gap is the big thing,as the others have stated,when the fish takes the bait just reel in, let him hook himself, the biggest mistake people make is jumping the gun,,,, slow and relaxed

with eels I use "j" hooks exclusivly,3/0 or 4/0 any larger and you WILL miss a good number of fish, those big hooks are just too hard to drive home,I've seen it way too many times..... circles just seem to find thier way back into the eel way too often, it does happen with "j's" but not nearly as often,,My .02
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:19 AM
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I want to thank everyone for the help. I am going to set the drag and leave it alone, use a # 8 and deadstick the pole. Let you know how I make out next time I'm out. Thanks again Dobb
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:08 AM
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Another awsome lesson .. That one is hard learnd for me , all the big ones that got away. I could have landed them all. To tight ,to lose =
no big ones. Sett it and forget it. Tightning it while fighting is a huge mistake that iv'e made more than once. A monster will runn so hard
that it make your spool sing at 15lbs drag . Scary when you only have 150 yards on your spool. Iv'e learned the hard way that you could have 85lb test on your reel and lose a lunker because your drag is sett to high.
The fish would rather lose a chunk of her face then find out what has her
hooked.I always make sure my drag is set right. I bought a penn lever
drag so that i would stop thumbing the spool, I keep it full of 85lb braid.
I keep it fairly light on hook set 15lbs and 25lbs on over drag. I love my new sett up . Its verry predictabe and adds alot of confidence .Gami 7/-9/0 live bait hooks . Wy would you want to miss the trill of " set the hook"
I always screw with my budies when there using circles ,They'll crouch over and assume the position and i'll yell out "set the hook"
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