I ll try to help you guys out. Sunday might be my last day this season.Today Sat, 3 of us went caught 16 fish 9 keepers, fish up river where shallow water is close to deep need moving water and plenty of cover, caught them casting several differant spots and they wanted one color, the color thats allways right!!! as the rime goes. On that end there is plenty of room for every one. I think they are looking for Herring! Hope this helps We only seen 2 other boats all day, that was nice!!