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Old 05-26-2009, 09:23 PM
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I have read that the low riders were designed for long rods. I have also read that you want 47" from the reel to the stripper guide. So my question is would it make any sense to build a 9' rod with low riders? This will be my first build so any other suggestions will be appreciated.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:15 AM
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A group of us (NERBS) did a comparison a bunch of years ago when the whole lowrider and Fuji Concept ideas were just coming out.
We built 5 rods, all on the same model Rainshadow 9' blank. One standard cone (spinning), one high frame Concept, one low rider dual purpose, one acid (spiral) and one straight conventional.
The lowrider rod shocked everyone by outcasting all the others in the spinning reel tests.

As for location of the stripper guide, I've found that a dual purpose (lowrider) rod needs to be built to match a specific spinning reel to maximize its performance. Set up the rod by taping the guides on, then test cast shifting the stripper up and down until you achieve the proper balance between slap and choke
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So I take it that whole 47" minimun distance from the reel thing is not really true?

Also what set up preformed the best in the test you did?
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So I take it that whole 47" minimun distance from the reel thing is not really true?

Also what set up preformed the best in the test you did?
The distance from the guide to the the reel depends on the combination of the diameter of the spool and the height of the stem. You HAVE to experiment with reel and guide location until you get it balanced.

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The lowrider rod shocked everyone by outcasting all the others in the spinning reel tests.
Also, of course it's braid only - forget low riders and mono, doesn't work at all.
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Is there a formula like with the NGC diameter X 27? What I'm going to build is a SSU 108 1L. I really like the low riders on my AFAW, but I had that one built, I think it not only casts well but I think it works plugs better.
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I find this concept amazing that I wish I had asked the guy how much more it would cost me to have those low riders. Khary are you building a plugging stick?
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Yeah a back bay rod
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I find this concept amazing
I was blown away at first too but when you think about it it makes sense.

What's going to slow the line more, friction on one guide or friction on 3 or 4 guides?
Hard choke on the first guide then a straight run out (lowrider) will have less surface area rubbing on the line then standard cone method where the line rubs against each guide as they go from large to small.
The more friction, the slower the line and the shorter the cast.

And again - this is only with braid !
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I was blown away at first too but when you think about it it makes sense.

What's going to slow the line more, friction on one guide or friction on 3 or 4 guides?
Hard choke on the first guide then a straight run out (lowrider) will have less surface area rubbing on the line then standard cone method where the line rubs against each guide as they go from large to small.
The more friction, the slower the line and the shorter the cast.

And again - this is only with braid !
Nice explanation . . . so what happens if you fish with mono with little or no memory?
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No such thing, not in comparison to braid
The mono piles up at the stripper kills the cast. Often jams, overruns and tangles on the guide

Mono and lowriders = bad idea
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