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Old 06-22-2010, 03:17 PM
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just read on my other fishing forum that he may have passed away.
Chuck has been sick - I'm sure he hasn't passed away because he recently sold off many of his reels and other fishing collectables on ebay. A drilled out 704 went for over $300
I have a picture of it somewhere.
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here is the photo of his drilled out 704.
Like I said it topped out over $300 bucks.
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Jim, that's a 706. I've seen it, sold for $330.00. Looks sweet!
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Is there a website that gives the size, weight, line cap in Yds/Lbs, and/or is there maybe a current Penn product line ( or other mfg ) that carries the same general sizing reel to reel that the oldies could compare to?? Be nice to know sizes and I don't have one in hand (yet). That way I could have a general idea I was getting the right size reel for the rods I have. I'd love to pick up an old greenie online, ebay, whatever, ( with the full intention of using it )... if I have a chance, but I have no idea what sizes the old greenies are. I had a real small green 716 ultralight at one time... but that's of no help. I'd be lookin to get (for lack of a better description) a med to med lrg size greenie??? I likely do not need a big one. I fish LI Sound with 8 or 9 foot rods. thx... tjd
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Look in the stickies in this forum for schematics.
Scotts bait and tackle in Mystic Island N.J. has the most comprehensive list of old and new Penns and parts on the web.

www.Pennparts.com
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710 should be perfect for the 8 ft. rod. 704 weighs around 22 oz. and holds 285 yds. of 15 lb. mono. Might be too much for a 9 ft.'er but you'll have the needed line capacity. Perfect for a 10 ft. What's the ratings on the rods?
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I was thinkin (guessing actually) a 710 would work based on what I read in the threads posted here. Is the 710 about the size of a Mitchell 300?... maybe a little beefier?? The rod is an 8' slow action Honey Lami from the 70's I re-wrapped a few years back. I could see that combo. I also have a 10 ft Ben Doerr from the early 90's I think. 2 pc unequal length model, Medium action. I have in the back of my mind that someday I'll stumble across a Penn for that rod. I have an ad looking to buy Penns in the magazine I work for. I'm actually the classified mgr. Who knows, I may get a call someday... Just wanted to know what was what if I ever do. Is there a size between the 710 and the 704?? 706 is a bail-less 704 right? thx
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706 is the largest model but is the same housing as a 704 but with a bigger rotor and spool, 300 yds. of 20# mono., runs on two bearings, manual pick-up, slightly longer crank handle, round knob. 704 is the next size down. 285 yds. of 15# mono. Manual bail kit available($30.00). 710 is the next size down. Ben Doerr's a good blank!
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Thanks RJC.... tjd
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E-bay"s a good place to hunt down a good one. Make sure the seller's got a good rating and return policy though!
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Is the 710 about the size of a Mitchell 300?... maybe a little beefier??
The Mitchell 300 is comparable in size to the 712 or 14 - very small reels suited for freshwater.

The 710 is the approximate size of the Mitchell 306 and the 704 /06 is comparable to the Mitchell Saltwater 302. - If memory serves me correctly they are about 20 ounces and 24 ounces respectively.

The egg-beater (302) vs the coffee-grinder. (704)
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Ok good... Thanks Sjim. I think the 706 being higher number, larger and heavier threw me off. While a lower number 704 is smaller and lighter. Then 710 is back to smaller again. I got the drfift now that ya can't follow that numbering system alone comparing the sizes. I found the Z Series manual too which helped light the lightbulb for me . By placing a classified in the magazine, I hope to troll up a couple reels before they hit ebay. Maybe I can get lucky and pay wholesale. thx again
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Maybe I can get lucky and pay wholesale. thx again
Speaking of paying wholesale... What would be considered "fair" to offer for any of the old Greenies if I should happen to get any calls??... I don't want to screw anyone (i don't have the heart to do that), but at the same time I also can't afford a money pit investment. Not looking for a collection, just wanted to grab a couple to fish with. Looking at trying to find a 704 and a 710... maybe a 706. Is offering $25 an insult?? Will likely get calls from folks who have a rod or 2 hangin in the rafters that isn't used anymore. Let's say for simplicity sake... Condition is one of 3 levels.

Beater Not Fishable (likely only a parts mule)

Used Working Fishable (could stand minor replacement items if any)

Mint (needs nothing)

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Condition is one of 3 levels.

Beater Not Fishable (likely only a parts mule) 704($20-$25)

Used Working Fishable (could stand minor replacement items if any)704($40-$50)

Mint (needs nothing)704($75-$90)

thx... tjd
Penn 706 are harder to come by. I've seen them sell for as low as $150 and as high as $400(new in box).
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What would be considered "fair" to offer for any of the old Greenies if I should happen to get any calls??..
As of today its more of a buyers market on these reels as the price has dropped slightly. More of them have hit the market from those wishing to make a quick buck and therefore the demand isnt as great. If you pay $400 for one your nuts. Even mint and machined out.
The normal going price on a usable 710 with little to no rubs is around $50 bucks. Bailess models add $25. Mint add $25 - machined out add $35 more.

704 greenie is about the same price as a 704Z maybe a little less as production ceased more recently on the black z models in 2006. Some of the 704 - 706 models are still in box brand new. $150 is about the max you should pay. Mint NIB - Average fair price $70 bucks for a very good condition greenie -
Machined out top price should be no more than $300.

Demand on these are obviously higher as it is a niche custom item - Like a PUM mitchell 302 / 402

More than $150 for the PUMs is too much IMHO.

Give or take a few dollars. Mostly take....
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