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Old 04-17-2007, 09:35 AM
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GF,
Welcome to the sight.
You dont even have to paint them if you dont want to... It's all about longevity, although no plug will last forever if fished...Sealing the plug from water intrusion is the most important thinng to do.
Are you sealing the plugs or just priming them? I've never used the petit paint on plugs, but do use it on the boat.. it's tuff stuff!

Try a few out and see how they hold up.. you might be on to something!
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:50 AM
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Back to the build:

with the lateral line painted, I am now going to apply a light shade of blue to the belly and a deep purple to the upper body, leaving just a subtle lateral line, the "blues" have dried I set the plug in a scale machine to be painted, lacking such a devise, you can wrap the mesh around the body and hold it in place with chip clamps or paper binder clips...

Netting can be onion bags, tule or my favorite ... scrunchies....

Now apply a THIN coat of silver to each side... keep this very thin, too much paint and it will run and smear....

I like to apply a kill dot to my Dannie's near the front hook, I often time spray this right through the mesh... the color will be black and black will be the color.

Once the paint is dry, remove the mesh and allow the plug to cure for 24-48 hour before applying a scratch coat, failing to do this may lead to a shortened life of the epoxy... I've seen it peel like a snake skin after catching several fish.

The scratch coat serves a few purposes, for one, it provides a binder between the paint and the epoxy, it also helps the epoxy flow for a smoother finish, It also protects the paint from the occasional "oops" when you drop the plug on the Way to the bench for rigging..

I use E-tex spray as my scratch, it is stinky but the results are worth it...
Prior to my discovery of the e-tex spray, I used minn wax spray poly, it worked satisfactory but tends to yellow with time.

once the scratch coat is complete, apply your eyes, and belly grommets,I use 5 minute epoxy for this chore...
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:16 AM
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I use enviro tex lite, others use Devcon, all need to be rotated in sum manner, the easiest "set it and forget it" way is with a spinner, you can also hang you plugs and flip every 5 minutes or so until the epoxy set up.

Once the epoxy has cured and is no longer tacky, you can assemble your plug, some people assemble the plug first then epoxy, I prefer to assemble lipped swimmers after epoxy, it makes a neater job.

I dont bother trying to keep the epoxy out of the lip slot, if any get in, I clean it out with my coping saw....

Making the tail loop.. I hate loose and sloppy tail loops!
To make the loop, I bend the wire back to a 90 degree angle, I have a #0 phillips set in my vise and by holding pressure just abpve the bent I grab the wire and make a tight loop, I remove the screw driver and plug and clamp the preformed loop in the vise, I start my wrap, by bending the plug slightly to each side as the wrap goes on, I can tuck each one behind the other making a VERY tight wrap, I find a pair of needle nose visegrips to be the most usefull tool when working with wire.

Instead of cutting the excess with apair of cutters I use a dremal tool and score the tag ens, then using a pair of needle nose pliars, bend it back and forth until it breaks, leaving a smooth surface, besure to bend the wire slighly away from the plug or the vibration will leave a mark in your plug.
to be continued:
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:19 AM
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Now to install your hooks, I use VMC 3/0 hooks for this plug, I dont like split rings on this plug because I feel they alter the action...

you can use Mustad, cut hooks but I find them to be trouble at times.

So using a cut off wheel on my dremal, I make a cut in the VMC hook, I clean up the bur with a file and rough up the area with #220 sand paper, I install my hook and gently pinch it shut with my needle nose vise grips, I then solder it shut with Rosin core silver solder... It must be rosin core, acid core will eat the hook, silver solder will adhere to the cut, making a smoother "repair"

while all this was taking place I trussed up a 6/0 siwash single hook in my vise and tied in a section of black hair, I applied several coats of Sally Hansen hard as nails (clear nail polish) to the threads...

Tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin and try and get some swimming pictures.
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A Fine How To Roc....im Sure It Will Swim Like A Dream.
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:23 AM
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took her for a test ride... as expected... nice wake!



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I didnt seal the first 40 but i sealed tonights batch on your recomend. do you have trouble with them holding paint , once you get a chip on them ,if you dont seal them ? the cedar wont rot , and most of them will be down river by oct . any way. did you say u used bin ( shellac ) for primer , latex for color and envirotex epoxy for finish seal .
Thanks for your advice, GF
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:38 AM
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GF,

Two things happen to a unsealed plug, neither of them good.

first as the wood absorbes water (through the through wire hole and along the belly gromets) it begins to gain weight, as it gains weight, alot of the original action is lost.
Secondly, in the process of gaining weight, the wood is swelling, as it swells it will pop the paint/finish right off of the plug....This usaly starts at the belly gromets and spreads down the length of the plug.

As far as chips go, that is the beauty of epoxy, it tends not to chip as easily, it can and does, but not as easily....

Even the ones I varnish, still hold the paint, even after being scarred from the hooks, sometimes the more beat up they are, the better they fish...
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Thanks for all the info . my wire tieing has improved over night.
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I'm WOWed!
Went away a few days after this started and thought it wouldbe interesting.
Just read through and found it excellent.
I've a few "catch-ups" to do, then I'm gonna get started again (whittlin).
thanks for the effort you put in on this. I hope it's going to be "stickied" or somehow available as newbies (like myself) want to get involved.
EXCELLENT instructional material, you should write a book!
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Thanks for the lesson Roccus. I will be setting up my shop to turn some plugs soon.
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well, im kinda late on this, but school is finally out, and i have to say.
WOWAWEEWA. roc, u daman
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I have tried the BLO mix and gotten bad results. after a while the plugs I painted white bleed through. they look brown. did i not let it dry long enough or is there something I am missing? I did put sanding sealer on them after the BLO
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:15 AM
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yes, lack of drying time... also was it mixed 60/40 with mineral spirits....

How long did you soak them?
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