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Old 07-03-2007, 02:46 PM
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Any tips on fishing the mouth from a boat at the end of the outgoing / beginning of the incoming tide with herring?

I use the entire fish and hook it up through the head, but I loose half the fish about 90% of the time… what keeps biting off half the fish…. blues or big stripers? I hook the herring up through the nose… maybe there’s a better way? Should I use one of those leaders with two hooks or will that keep fish away?

Any suggestions…. different bait / tides?

FYI ~ our boats located @ Rings Island Marina and we have lots of luck catching 22 – 28 fish with chunks there but that’s getting old.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:51 PM
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Herring are illegal, there is a 3 year moretoeum on them within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

So my suggestion, is to use a different bait. Live eels seem popular in that area.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:00 PM
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i was gonna mention that, but i figured......it's only common sense seeing how 50% of our posts are about eels....
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:33 PM
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I'm sure he's referring to Sea Herring not the banned river herring.

Every B&T is carrying flats of sea herring. So they say anyhow, I couldn't
tell the difference even if you held up both and compared them. I'd
need a book showing the difference.

Problem is that it doesn't hold up in the water or to casting once it thaws.

As far as the mac goes...There's tons of blues around and its likely that's
what is taking half your bait. If you think that blues are doing it the second
hook will help only if your leader can take it.

I've started using rubberbands to hold things in place and its worked quite
well. Its not going to hold off the blues but I haven't been giving away
free meals either.

Rubberbands are cheap and easy to use. I had in the past used thread and
that just became a problem to use and find... I've got rubberbands
everywhere I look now. Which is good cause I lose everything in all the
clutter on my boat. Well not that bad...But I'm always searching for the
scissors...I need a few extra pairs...
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:27 PM
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i'm guessing its sea herring because i doubt the bait shops are selling illegal herring, but who knows...right?

I typically don't use eels because i'm not fishing at night and clams bring in to many small guys...

So you use rubber bands to hold the second hook in place? I realize the mac hold up better after they thaw, but i don't have as much luck when i use them... thinking it had something to do with the oil that comes off the herring?

Do any of you guys use wire line for the bass offshore?
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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the bait shops are selling sea herring..notice the scales are missing too...the netiing boats strip the scales to make pearl flakes for paints and such..some bait shops have somewhat fresh herring too..its also sea herring..the way i solve the falling apart thing is to cut them in half and hook through the head..in front of the eyes..it stays in the hook longer...if you ancor up..cut the tail half into small bits and start a chum slick...if drifting cut the tail fins off and hope it stays on the hook....cutting the tail fins off will keep it from spinning...or you could use the whole fish..hooking through the head..still cut off the tail fins though..
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:59 PM
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oh..pssst..eels work during the day too....heres an 18 pounder taken on an eel at 7am early last month by a friend of mine...i was chunking the mack and herring pieces...bill was heart set on catching one on the leftover eel i gave him from the night before..this was his first bass on an eel..after 30 years of striper fishing the mack, trying eels off and on..hes now a believer...we shortly went in for more eels and returned later that night..and the next night...eels were the only big bass takers..poppers took schoolies..as well as the chunks.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:27 AM
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would you drift? Would i use a slider weight 2/3 oz and real it in slowly? i'm not familiar with how to rig the eel and what the best approach is in the river... we typically drift the mouth at the end of the outgoing and beginning of the incoming tides... we don't fish Joppa much.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:43 AM
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if i were fishing eels at the mouth during the day....starting at first light..i would try a 1oz egg sinker on the main line and about an 18" 30# floro leader. cast him out..let him get to the bottom and slowly bring him in..maybe vary the retrieve..an occasional twitch too..ide try to bounce the egg sinker off the bottom..hoping to draw attention to the eel...just keep the eel moving enough so he doesnt tangle you up in the rocks...i really hate snagging bottom...if you snag a lot..lighten up the weigt..or remove it completely..generally i dont use weight when plugging eels.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:50 AM
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so you wouldn't worry about the tides?.... more about what time of day it is?

looks like first light tomorrow would be the beg of the outgoing so would you fish the mouth or work your way out?

low tide is at 11 P.M. that could produce some good action via eel
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:01 PM
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ide fish the last 1 or 2 hours of the incomming..then the first few hours of the outflow..be there before the sun rises if possible...keep track of when the fish are biting..if they are there. keep a log so you can plan your next trip around the more effective tide.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:30 PM
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thanks for the tips...


i will bring my camera and let you know how it goes.... see if i buy into
this eel craze

are they cheap and how long do they last on the hook?
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:25 PM
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anywhere from $1.25 to $2.00 each...get the biggest ones you can find...one eel can last all night and catch numerous fish..even dead ones will work as long as you keep them moving so the bass think they are alive..use a 4/0 or 6/0 octopus hook...NOT a circle hook.. keem em cool and use a rag to grab them..they are really slimey..hook em through the bottom lip through the head and out behind one of their eyes..once you hook em they should start to freak out...becareful they dont tie a knot in your leader..once they do you have to start over...after you hook em continue to hold em with the rag and quickly slap em on the water to stun them and start casting...
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:36 PM
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more than i thought.... maybe i should catch my own...

how many would you get per person?... we are going to fish for 3/4 hours..

thanks again
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:38 PM
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other suggestions welcome...what works for me may not work for others...ive only tried using an egg sinker a few times to try and get more distance from shore..usually i use no weight. im sure there are tons of methods out there..it wouldnt hurt to experiment a bit too if its slow.
one other thing. its not like chunkin...you dont need to let the bass run too far with the eel..wait for the bump....then lower your rod a bit...then the fish will pull...then set the hook.
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