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Old 09-27-2007, 09:05 PM
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If I take pictures of a couple of my fishing spots, would y'all mind taking a gander and pointing out anything on them that sticks out to you as signs of better/worse fishing spots? I figure I read them pretty well, but 'd be interested in some objective opinoins, and they're not secret spots or anything.
Take pics and lets see em Mainline.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:55 AM
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I am on cedar beach north shore LI... I have no idea how to read this beach any one can help?? thx
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Dont know the beach but look it over at low tide on different moon stages.
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i will but what am i looking for and why diff moon phase?
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the tide will be higher and lower at the new moon than at the full moon. You are looking for structure and sand bars, at low tide. at high tide look for the rips around the inlets to the sand bars. you may also notice a drop off if you get in the water at low tide. this means at high tide that deep water shelf is within casting distance. unless you are like me who spend two years learning a beach only to discover it is a clam bed for 200 yards out. oops. just my 2 cents.
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........spend two years learning a beach only to discover it is a clam bed for 200 yards ......
PERFECT right after a "Easterly".
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i will but what am i looking for and why diff moon phase?
Mike Smu basically covered it. Twice a month the Full and the new moon will have the highest of high tides and lowest of low tides. Known as "Spring tides" they happen when the sun and moon are on the same side of the earth (New Moon) or when the sun and moon are on opposite sides of the earth (Full Moon) These extreme low tides can reveal structure not seen under normal circumstances. Submerged outcroppings of rocks often extend out way beyond the visible water lines. Lower tides offer places that concentrate fish or provide good cover for predatory fish waiting for a meal to tumble by. At higher tides the water can fill in behind structures and this water needs a way to escape. These escape ways can form what we look for as rips or eddies as this water accellerates back out into the main body of water. The water accellerates out underneath faster than the water coming in. This constriction of water is known as the venturi effect. It creates "nervous water" and bait fish can be disoriented and stunned in these tidal eddies. Making the water prime for targeting cows. This may be completely unnoticible until you have looked it over at all tide stages and sat there and quitely watched a rip form.

Sand beaches often change. The sand bars shift after severe wind and weather. Its best to read a sand beach at low tide. You may spot a slough or cut out parrallel or perpendicular to the beach that fish will use as pathways. Predators often lay at these edges in ambush.
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Please be aware that some of those shots on google earth and the other sites are years old! The sand shifts and the bottom changes after every storm.I realized the shots were old when I was looking at a spot where I fish and I noticed an empty lot between two houses. They built a house on that lot 2 years ago!
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That is very true tech.
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A lot of times people make a big issue about "reading the beach". But it is easy if you just focus on finding these four primary structures - points, bowls, troughs and bars - and then target the secondary "spots on the spots".
You can dissect the layout of any sand beach into these four well-defined structures. Then you can methodically fish them, thereby identifying which structures the fish are currently using and equally important, discover which structures the fish are NOT currently using. If you do so, you can confidently eliminate unproductive types of spots for the moment, and you can consistently put yourself in the company of gamefish all up and down "any beach" where gamesters are using these four primary structures - and especially the secondary "spots on the spots" to put on the fall feed bag.
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This particular structure the tide has been receding for some time . When it was full the water filled behind the boulders and would excellerate out as a washout on the drop making very distinct eddies.
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Bump!! Great thread for newbies to read. Go back to page 1 and start at the beginning
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Question,
I have been "beach fishing" for stripers for the past 3 years. Each year i catch 4-5 good keepers usuall on chunk mackerel. My question is : do all beaches hold keeper stripers? I normally fish the incomming tide. This year im also trying low tide fishing. I was fishing yesturday at low tide around some rocks saw alot of schoolies , but im looking for that "pig" I have grown up fishing for largemouths my whole life and i use the same ideas and methods and it seems to work. so can fish be caught at low tide from the beach as well as high "incomming tide" I'M new to this site im looking for someone to share ideas with i live on the N SHORE of Boston if anyone can help e mail thanks , matt
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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Hi Matt,
Do all beaches hold keeper sized fish at low tide? Not necessarily. It all depends on what structure is there, what bait is present, currents, etc. The best way to know about your spot is to fish it with regularity at all stages of tide and keep a log of your results to learn what is generally the most productive time to fish it. There's is one location I fish occasionally where there is a very productive spot at low tide, but 30 yards down the beach it's normally dead at low. Every location is different and you have to put in the time required to learn it well if you want consistent results. Good luck out there and Welcome to the site!!
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