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Old 02-28-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Starting out gear for striper/wiper fishing

I'm getting ready to pick up my new boat. I've got enough gear for bass fishing and fly fishing and a good stealhead rod. But the only trolling I've done has been with other peoples gear. Nobody that I fish with has ever been Striper fishing. What should I be looking for to start out?
I don't think I need everything all at once and I don't have anything against used equipment.
I'll be fishing in Indiana and Kentucky.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Starting out gear for striper/wiper fishing

Are you basically in the market for trolling gear???

If so, remember to invest your money into your reels. There are alot of inexspensive trolling rods out there to chose from. Try to go with 8' - 8 1/2' medium heavy trolling rods at least. They will give you better leverage and they will also help keep you in better control of your fish preventing the fish from getting to close to the boat/outboard.

As far as brands to chose from, Shakspeare Ugly Stiks are an all round favorite. Over the last few years I have been using Gander Mountains Guide Series without a complaint. A nice thing about GM rods is, in the event that you accidently break one most GM's will exchange for a new one without question.

When it comes to trolling reels under power without a doubt Diawa Sealines, 27's or 47's are the choice of serious precision trollers. Stay clear of the Accudepths and the less exspensive models, as stripers & wipers have been known to make them explode!

Remember invest your money in your reels, because if you don't that fish of a lifetime will point it out to you real quick!

Abu Garcia is another all round excellant reel to choose from as well. The 5500 & 6500 have proven themselves time after time. I actually have some 6500's that are going on 20 years and still work like a champ!
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Starting out gear for striper/wiper fishing

Thanks LC.

I read your reply and checked out ebay and saw an Abu Garcia 5500 with 24 minutes left and got it for $22 +$6.50. What other things should I be looking out for? Do you fish Dipsy Divers and planer boards? I have a friend that quit Walleye fishing and he might be ready to unload some stuff.

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Old 03-02-2007, 02:58 AM
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Congrats on your purchase!

On the dipsey's..

I really don't pull dipseys that much anymore. It's just that I have better success with other methods. I have logged some hours pulling dipseys, and it hasn't been convincing enough for me to incorporate them into my trolling spread.
With the disturbance that dipseys cause below I would of thought they would of been more productive for me. I do know of some trollers that say they have luck with them, personally, I'm not sold on them for striped bass fishing (trout & salmon..different story!)

Now, If you can get your hands on some planer boards, DO!
Planer boards are an instrumental piece of equipment to have onboard for spreading out your presentations. I like to keep several models on board. For speed trolling and dragging lures I still like OffShore Tackles planer boards. For live bait fishing I prefer Church Tackles TX-12's, and you should also check out "Striper Addictions" Aluminum boards. We started using them for livebait fishing towards the end of last year and liked them alot. They are interchangable, so you can switch them from portside to starboard, and you can't beat the price on a pair.
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:29 PM
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I agree with LC on picking good reels. I have Daiwa 47H's and also some Shimano 200 GT's that I have had for 15 years or better with no failures. I bought 2 of Cablea's Depthmaster Gold reels for lead core and they are well built and very smooth. The Ugly sticks are fine rods but you can get a good rod a little cheaper. I have used Eagle Claw Starfire and Shimano TDR rods for years and have not had a failure yet. These rods retail around $29.00-35.00.
The Cabela's Depthmaster rods aren't bad either. I do mostly trolling with jigs and artificial bait and use 2- double keel planer boards. These are large boards and you need a mast for these but the advantage is that you don't have to fight the fish with a planer board on the line. The release clips on the planer board line. As far as dipsy divers, they work great on Lake Michigan for salmon but with the depth of inland lakes in Indiana, theres not much point. The stripers/wipers are rarely more than 20 ft deep in Indiana reservoirs. (As boat shy as stripers can be, if you let out line to get beyond the shadow of your boat, you would be way too deep unless you were fishing Cumberland or real deep reservoirs.) You can reach that depth with a heavy jig or deep diving crankbait. ( I like Storm Deep Thundersticks and Little Macs). Hope these tips help!!

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Old 03-02-2007, 10:01 PM
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I think a line counter reel is critical. It allows you to set your bait depths quickly. I bought 8 of the Cabelas Depth Master Goal combos in the last year. I really like them. Then I would buy boards. I would make sure you have excellent rod holders. You need something to measure your speed when trolling as well. A good GPS will work, or a speedometer. I would then buy baits. I'm sure I forgot something, but that will get you started.

Oh, I've got a good idea. If you haven't ever fished for them, I would hire a guide. It will help you jump about two years on the learning curve. It will also give you a better idea about what things you need.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:40 PM
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Oh, I've got a good idea. If you haven't ever fished for them, I would hire a guide. It will help you jump about two years on the learning curve. It will also give you a better idea about what things you need.
True that, panfish....I wish that I had hired a striper guide when I first started fishing for them!! There's no telling how much money I would have saved on gear/lures (a whole lot more than my guide charges) that either wasn't up to par or just flat out didn't catch fish. And, as panfish stated, the info a guide shares with you will put you years ahead of the game.
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Old 03-03-2007, 01:02 AM
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I took a guide out for my first trip to Lake Cumberland. We only caught one keeper that day. The fish just were not biting. I asked that guide every question I could think of and he answered everyone. We paid for a 6 hr trip and he fished for about 8 or 9 hrs. He threw the book at them. Actually when I look back on the trip, I'm glad the fish weren't turned on. I would have learned a whole lot less if we went out and caught our limit in an hour.

2nd time I fished for them, I had an idea of what to do but was fishing a different area. The first time I fished near Grider Hill, the second time I fished out of Conley bottoms. I wanted to try it on my own. I had received some good info off of the message boards about the depths and techniques that were working and using what the guide had taught me helped me put a plan together. When I got to the lake I went into the marina to see if anyone in there could offer any more advise for me. I asked this old timer in the marina if anyone was catching any stripers. His answer I'll probably never forget, "the guides are". We went out the next morning and put 3 keepers in the boat. Everyone in the campground was amazed at the size of the fish and the guy camping next to me asked if I caught the fish out of this lake.

3rd trip I stayed on Pitman creek. Everyone around me was again amazed I could catch such large fish out of the lake.

Looking back, on my years of striper fishing most of the fish have been caught using similar techniques to what the guide helped me with. Of course you learn new things each year. Without a foundation to build on, they can be an impossible fish to catch.

The president of the ISBA told me he began by reading books and calling guides in Kentucky to help him catch a fish. It took him about 6 months to catch his first one. After he began catching fish he hired a guide to help him get better at it. He will usually out fish most of us now. I'm sure if he had it all to do over again, he would have hired a guide his first trip.

I plan to hire one up here in Indiana to help me learn new techniques and get better at my old ones. Just like buying good equipment, hiring a good guide is a good investment.
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