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Old 09-04-2009, 09:44 PM
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Hello all. I am to say the least a novice when it comes to striper fishing. I have 24 years of deer hunting experience but very little in bass fishing (My first month). In deer hunting I keep close tabs on the moons phase as it affects when deer feed and also breed. Could someone shed some light on how the moon affects striped bass activity. I realize that tides come into play but I just don't know how. Moon phase combined with tides I'm sure creates many scenarios. Which is best? Full moon or new moon. When deer hunting, having the moon overhead or underfoot,regardless of the phase results in feeding periods regardless of the time of day. Is this the same for fish?

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Old 09-05-2009, 12:49 AM
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Tides are higher and currents are stronger around the full and new moons.

As those stronger currents sweep along structure they disorient and take the baitfish along with them. This provides easy pickins for the bass who hide along the current edges and breaks and with those big broomlike tails have no problems dealing with the stronger flow.

I've always preferred the new moon over the full moon. I've had very few really good nights when the moon is so bright it's like a giant spotlight into the water. Full moon with heavy cloud cover is a different story, love that.
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:32 AM
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i like fishing structures like pilings and bridges in the daytime moons. these fish take up residence behind them in currents more often then on regular tides. as they are protected from current behind them. they will actually stay there till the water stops moving and get another spot. in places where bait is always available i have more times than not culled a fish from there. night time is altogether different. if i've told anyone one thing, it is not to leave out that one aspect of fishing a moon. ideally a fly moving with the longshore current into the zone but a jig or a sinking plug as well as bait in and around that zone. otherwise the high moon in the evening mostly puts em down imo. but there are exceptions to this and that is hunger. but who the hell knows what these fish are up to cuz they will show you a different look you didn't expect for any situation. it's just beautiful to be wrong imo..



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Old 09-05-2009, 11:13 AM
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As a surfcaster I like the new moon and blackness for the stealth aspect. Bigger fish will patrol the surf zone under cover. And for what has been said already, stonger currents and higher and lower tides.
I wouldnt think it mattered to the boat fishermen nearly as much as they can fish deeper and be very very quiet.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:30 AM
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Although I fish from a boat, I fish shallower than most surf casters... full moon requires longer lines, smalller baits and different tactics, the bright moon does not spook the fish as some may think..passing clouds and moving shadows do....fish feed under the bright sun, sometimes in mere inches of water. bright moon light is no different...This past week although cloudless most nights ,saw the best fishing of the 2009 season...I hope everyone stops fishing on the full moon.. all the better for me..

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Old 09-09-2009, 11:23 PM
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you catch fish in a puddle... what else is new...it's just beautiful to be wrong imo..
i'd call you but we know how long that call will last...
if ya fished here for 3 days you would shoot yourself. the bluefish are in the 12-15# range and are on the warpath... i brought the axe with me tonight but they got a reprieve as i left and had salmon/pineapple chutney + potato's and string beans for dinner. wife knows how to get me to come home early. sometimes food is more important than bluefish. frankly - everything is more important than bluefish,
and all i had to say is axe and opened a can of worms i'm sure.



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Old 09-10-2009, 07:15 AM
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Last two weeks saw the best fishing of the entire season..all under that beautiful bright moon.. no monsters just fish in the low twenties to low thirties.. but lots of them...and not a boo fish in sight..

when we get to the new moon... I dont want to see one complaint about the fire in the water..
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:57 PM
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Last two weeks saw the best fishing of the entire season..all under that beautiful bright moon.. no monsters just fish in the low twenties to low thirties.. but lots of them...and not a boo fish in sight..

when we get to the new moon... I dont want to see one complaint about the fire in the water..
Wow, wish it could be like that around here, I'm extremely jealous!
We've had a few schoolies taken here and there but nothing like that! (From the beach)

Sept, new moon = Fire in the water I hadn't even thought about that. Nothing worse then taking "the Death March" at the Hook only to have the water light up all around you when you step in.
Got my beotchin out of the way early
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Wow, wish it could be like that around here, I'm extremely jealous!
We've had a few schoolies taken here and there but nothing like that! (From the beach)

Sept, new moon = Fire in the water I hadn't even thought about that. Nothing worse then taking "the Death March" at the Hook only to have the water light up all around you when you step in.
Got my beotchin out of the way early

I think .. and this is just my opinion, the fish that have migrated this far north ( we are at the northern boundry of the truely good large bass fishing) that they begin to stoke the furnace for the trip back a little earlier than they do to the south...we have about 4-5 weeks of good fishing left.. and then it will become hit or miss.. the hits will be big.. the misses much more frequent... because the full moon in October is early, the fishing may be good.. but it will be our last stand until next June as far as reliable big fish fishing goes..right now, there is the most bait around I have ever seen... everything but Pogies... sand eels, river herring, sea herring and mackerel.. even the eels are more abundant than they have been in 2o year.. so these fish should be fat when they reach jersey!

as Ive said before... I only use a boat to arrive at spots that are off limits from the beach or to fish rock piles gaurded by multy million dollar houses with NO Trespassing signs for lawn ornaments..... all my fish come from water knee deep ( on me) so their backs are just covered.... awesome sight to watch a pair of fins emerge from the wash in the moonlight to fight over crushing a slow moving Danny!
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here are a few pictures from last thursday.. numbnuts here didnt set the date right on the camera after i charged the battery...all these fish were released.. even the double which were caught on eels.. there were so many fish I switched to plugs, being alone, I could only use one rod at a time.....the blitz lasted for 5 hours and ended with the last of the incoming tide...
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:45 PM
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I know it's been a long time threat, but one of these seasons I'm going to get up there and fish with ya.
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beautiful fish roc!!!....all of them. seeing those pics reminds me of something ive been missing for a while now. keep the cow pics comming.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:10 PM
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all hail the Peter North of fish porn
i can catch a fish on the moon....
just not that productive down here is all..
and numbnuts here can't take a good pic to save his life so don't feel so camera numb..
your pics are way better than mine as jim and i were in montauk when we were suppose to be up with you) and i took some lousy pics. sudsy will remember this pic. (skinny fish!)



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Nice fish Roc
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I've been out the past few nights with no moon at all. Caught/released 1 18" bass and had a blue get away. Am I fishing under lower odds?
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