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Old 02-01-2007, 10:14 PM
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As someone new to surf casting I have a few questions I’m hoping I can get some help with. I have decided to invest in my first pair of waders, are there any brands that users would highly recommend or advise against? What are key things to look for when buying waders and would you recommend felt or lugged soles? Secondly is there a rule of thumb when choosing a line weight to use as a shock leader? I am using 20 pound mono and my rod is rated up to 4 oz. Would you suggest 30, 40 or a higher pound test as a shock leader? Also when casting plugs and other artificials do you tie the shock leader directly to the bait or do you use a strong snap swivel or other connection. Any advice on these topics would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:33 AM
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As someone new to surf casting I have a few questions I’m hoping I can get some help with. I have decided to invest in my first pair of waders, are there any brands that users would highly recommend or advise against? What are key things to look for when buying waders and would you recommend felt or lugged soles? Secondly is there a rule of thumb when choosing a line weight to use as a shock leader? I am using 20 pound mono and my rod is rated up to 4 oz. Would you suggest 30, 40 or a higher pound test as a shock leader? Also when casting plugs and other artificials do you tie the shock leader directly to the bait or do you use a strong snap swivel or other connection. Any advice on these topics would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Waders - Definitely breathable! Price differences brand to brand can be huge. Decide what the budget is then come back and ask questions. You also need to decide between bootfoot and stocking foot. That's a personal choice - I prefer stocking foot but most of my friends like boot foot.

If Bootfoot then regular sole - attach Korkers when rock hopping
If Stocking foot I really like felt soled with attached spikes, I particular like the Simms Freestones.

Leader - are there bluefish around? If so then at least 50# If not then I prefer 30#, 40# if there are rocks and other objects that could nick and abrade the leader. Also, I always use flourocarbon, TripleFish brand isn't too expensive and it works great. Seaguar is great stuff but I can't justify the high price.

I usually use a duolock snap on one end of the leader and a 90# Spro swivel to on the other end. Both are attached with palomar knots. Pretied leaders are stored in a leader wallet in my plug bag or in a pocket and replaced whenever one gets nicked or cut, again with a palomar knot
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Definately the breathables. Lighter and easy to carry.
Korkers hurt my ankles. I went with the stocking feet
and the cheaper felt sole boots. A winner so far.
Hodgman makes an inexpensive and decent product.
Not the best but the price is right.
(The breathables cost more and are better made)
Their customer service is great.
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All very true, however, You don't rock hop anymore nor do you make the long marches.
I bought a pair of $30 Hodgeman boots, they were completely destroyed in about a year and a half, Plus you need Korkers with them if you're going to rock hop, that's another $40

I bough a pair of Simms Freestone Felt sole studded boots going on 4 years ago for $70 that are still in decent shape, and you don't need korkers with them. If you do the depreciation math it shows that their annual cost is far less then the less expensive pair.
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I'll try the Sims freestones Suds.
The Hodgeman boots are cheap.
Those and the stocking feet kept my feet warm
in 50 degree water.
25 bucks in Walmart.
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Secondly is there a rule of thumb when choosing a line weight to use as a shock leader?
There actually is a rule regarding shock leaders.
Figure 10 pounds of test for every ounce you will be throwing.
https://stripers247.com/shockleader2.htm

RE: Leaders ___I generally tie right to the plug with braided lines but If Im using normal 20 pound mono I like to use 40 or 50 # flourocarbon leaders or heavier mono.
Preference is based on type of fishing and area to be fished.
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I'll try the Sims freestones Suds.
The Hodgeman boots are cheap.
Those and the stocking feet kept my feet warm
in 50 degree water.
25 bucks in Walmart.

If you're not walking much or climbing around on the rocks the Hodgemans' are fine. It was probably 200+ miles of walking that killed mine.
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Welcome jpridill, I got a pair of proline boot foot waders of ebay real cheap, so you might want to look there just make sure you check the feedback on the seller. I don't got the breathables, but after hiking around a few times last summer I think I will invest in a pair!
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I have breathables and neoprene for hte colder times. I have the stocking foot on both. I had the bootfoot, but they all leaked eventually where the boot met the wader. I like the bootfoot though. They are more convenient.
I don't use a shock leader. I use braid to a flourocarbon or mono leader.
I fish the rock of RI, mostly, I use Korkers and the slip on types the are great.
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