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Old 03-24-2010, 07:52 AM
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My 1322 needs two new guides after a season of use also. One the ceramic chipped the other the ceramic just came out of it. C'est la vie. I will probably strip and have it rewrapped next winter unless I can get something else in that range this spring for a decent deal.
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Old 03-26-2010, 02:16 AM
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I had the the 9' ron arra xra108-4, one piece. I used it for one week and then 'snap!' I'm sort of strong, and like to throw with authority . . . I won't do that again with those ron arra's.

No need to throw hard with them; find a better casting reel. The guys here have convinced me to try and learn conventional, which should typically outcast spinning, thus reducing my percieved need to throw hard.

The good news, is that I got a new blank! Lamiglas honored their warranty even though it probably was due to my meat headed-ness.

Don't overload it, use the # line it's rated for, don't try to break any casting distance records, and avoid bashing it around rocks, or shutting the car door on it.

Superb rod though! Super light, feels amazing.




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Old 03-27-2010, 10:37 PM
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You guys are killin me lol. Making me rethink the arras and heading a different direction. One thing is whichever rod I get I will use the correct line class and lure weight but I do cast like I'm going for a record. If you pay a couple hundred dollars and up for a rod and it is made to cast a lure it shouldn't be breaking or having quality problems, maybe its just me lol. I'd rather put money into a better spinning reel and buy a a less pricey rod that will still do what its made to do.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:26 AM
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Art take a look at the St Croix Mojo 10'. It is a 2 piece but the joint does not effect the action as it is about 6" above handle. I think it will cast better than the Lami's due to the slick micro guides on it. I talked to a guy who said he added about 30 yards or more with the Mojo. He worked for Fishermans Supply and it was not due to wanting to sell me one as he was out of them. The only think is that the warranty is 5 years as opposed to Lami's lifetime. A 10' Mojo should run you about $220 to $230 unless you know someone. I know one place I think I can get around $200 even. Right now the only have 1 10' spin but have 2 10'6" spins. Not trying to confuse you but you should cover your bases and I feel this rod is worthy of your time. I also feel it should have better stopping power then many of the Lami's

Sorry if I'm confusing things but there are a few more rods I think you should look at if you have the chance:
CTS Enterprises
Seeker Baby ALUA
Tommy Farmer Surf Pro
and of course the AFAW but they are about impossible to get one these days
One rod not to be overlooked is a Star Stellar Lite Surf. They are cheaper rods but with great action and tremendous strength. One thing is the 10' has a joint smack in the middle of the rod but the 9 and 11 is more towards the handle. Ask Zim he has one and I should have one shortly also
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Old 03-28-2010, 02:14 PM
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You're not confusing me at all lol. I like having options believe me! I actually went to Red Top Sporting Goods less than 10 minutes away and looked at the Mojo rods. They had a few 10 footers and one 10' 6'' model both of which I liked very much. The weight of the rod isn't bad at all and has that stiff "look" to it but is actually faster than it seems. I will look for the other rods also. The Mojo I'll use for top water and jigging in the canal.The eyes on the Mojo are geared more towards braid use correct? I'll still be looking for a fast action lighter rod though as I first started off in my search lol. Oh I have looked at those Star Rods and will probably acquire one as the light fast action rod I've been looking for. When I first picked one up a couple months ago I was very surprised at the price point.
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:05 AM
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Well heck I'm confusing myself. LOL The Farmer, CTS and Seeker are rods that would need to be custom built. The CTS is amazingly light, the 10' 1-4 oz blank weighs 4 oz. and a big 13' heaver(bait) weighs only about 2 to 3 oz. for the blank. Super action on it but I would like to know someone else that actually owns one as I don't want to be the guinea pig. It is worth taking a look at though. There should start to be some stuff posted in the near future as I saw them taking orders at the NJ expo.
Yeah many folks look at me funny when I mention the Star and how much I like it, because when they hear the price they just think it's another cheap rod. I missed out at the expo as I did not realize they had a booth. They had a bunch of show rods they sold for 50% to 60% off. What I also like is the lifetime warranty

Do you use braid or mainly mono. I asked because I was wondering if you ever tried Finz mono. They have a shock Absorbing braid that has 10% stretch, it is made of Dynema(sp?) and something else allowing it to sstretch. They must have sold a thousand plus spools at the expo, I wanted to grab some but forgot as I was tired from working the show.

I did pickup a Lami XS 101ms (Jetty Surf)which I like very much from the limited amount I have used it.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:53 PM
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Jersey, I looked for the rods and made the assumption that they had to be custom made lol. I won't be able to afford to have one built this year but rather than buying a production rod for x amount of money I'd rather have someone I trust build it for obvious reasons. I'll be picking up the Mojo hopefully today as long as it is still there lol. It is funny if people give you a look b/c the price point is not up to that of some other rods. There is a saying I remember as a kid, it's a poor man that blames his work on his tools. If the rod does what it is supposed to do its up to the angler to do his/her part in finding and catching the fish. I won't tell you the two rods I've been using in the Cape Cod canal but they are cheap and everyone says that they're too small and I had to retire one last year after a few seasons lol. I still have it I had zip ties, and glue holding parts of it together lol and I still caught plenty of fish with it till a striper just a couple pounds shy of a 40 did it in, actually the handle lol I was holding it together with a bear grip while wrestling it in. An expensive rod does not guarantee anyone will catch more fish. I also ultra light fish and have used many rods over the last 16yrs (omg I'm getting old lol) the one I have now is maybe a 70 dollar 5'3'' rod and the one I miss till breaking it accidentally was a 30 dollar rod from years ago. And yes I will most likely be buying a star rod this year and using it in the canal. I use both braid and mono. For braid I've been using powerpro but will be giving strens braid a shot this year. I will look for the Finz and give it a shot as I plan on having a back up spool. So many choices lol
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Old 03-30-2010, 09:43 PM
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I picked up the Mojo 10'6'' rod today and like the feel very much! Now the reel lol. I was stuck on the shimano Saragosa but have been told that the daiwa Emblem Pro is the way to go as far as distance is concerned. I understand very well the dynamics of the over sized shallow spool design but will it be a night and day difference as far as casting distance goes between the two reels with this rod? And yes braid will be in use :)
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:07 PM
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Well I will try this one more time. For some reason it keeps locking up on me.
I was torn between the lami xs101ms(jetty surf) and the Mojo. I got the Lami for my Shimano TwinPower SW. Well then I got a ZeeBaas ZX25 which wnet on the lami. I will get the Mojo in the next day or so. What 10'6" did you get as they make 2 w/ diff lure ratings.

I love the Twinpower SW 6000. It has the 5000 body w/ 6000 spool, 29 lbs drag and weighs 14.5 oz. My is a Japanese domestic reel as it is not sold in the US but is easy to get. Parts can be ordered through Plat in Japan as they ship out all the time. The Twin is similar to the Diawa Saltiga Z but with a smoother drag. I will explain more about that later.
The Twin is very similar to the stella except has different gears and almost all parts can be swapped.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:17 PM
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Don't get this post wrong-This is one awesome reel and one of the best for several years. Well about till the release of the New Stella.
at high drag settings (over about 35#), Saltiga's drag had a felt starting inertia, that in some cases led to breakages of the stem of the smaller models, and in at least one documented case a breakage of the bail arm on a large model.
Starting inertia in a nutshell could be explained as follows: Newton says that a static body tends to stay static, and a moving body tends to keep moving. So, a static spool set at 40# of drag will not move at 40# of pull, but it will need a starting pull of anything between 45-55# to start moving, then once mobile it will start giving line at the original 40# until it stops and starts again. The difference between the drag setting and the initial pull required to start it is what makes a good drag and a bad one. Obviously, in the Saltiga a considerably big pull is required to start it moving at those very high settings, which results in a felt jerk. When the braid is too strong and the drag is very high, a breakage could result from this phenomena as illustrated in the photo above. The Stella FA/TwinPower SW did not have this jerk because it had bigger drag washers on the bottom of the spool as well as on top of it, thus achieving the same braking power at much less stress than in the Saltiga.

Looking at the entire package, and with Saltiga's single weak point exclusive to phenomenal drag pressures and even easily fixed with a cheap set of Carbontex washers.

Another Diawa worthy of a look is a Saltist. I think the mid level Diawas may be a step above many of the Shimanos. For Shimano I would also look at the Stradic and Sustain. If you go with a Diawa go may want to consider changing the dragwashers, this can also be said for the lower Shimano reels without the SW-Hyper Disk Drag. Although the Shimano Dartainium Drag is no slouch and you may not want to change them

Some of the above was copied from a testing report

One other thing is that both Shimano and Diawa both make about a dozen or more great reels that are not sold in the USA. Check out Shimano's site and slect South Asia(in English) and check out some of the reels. They have a whole Surf line not sold in the US http://fish.shimano.com.sg/
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:02 AM
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Sorry not trying to jack the thread again. I just hope some of this info might help you make your decision on reel.
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Jersey not at all. I checked out some of the reels from over seas and was asking myself why aren't they here? The biggest problem this year is financial reasons I can't really spend more than say about $250. My business is just breaking even and I'm starting to look for a night job and will actually be going to college in the Fall. All the information that you've given as well as everyone else I appreciate very much and it helps keep more options open as some people think this is the best or this is the best when I know things clearly aren't. Maybe the best for that individual for multiple reasons or a specific situation, you know. Oh the model of the 10'6'' Mojo is...MSS106MM2. The lighter spinning version of the two. I took it out for a few casts yesterday casting a plug then a 3 oz crippled herring. Casts very nice, love the action and don't have to put all I got into each cast to get it out there. I'll take it out to a football field sometime soon and see what the range I'm getting compared to my old rod is, which I know will be significant! I'm happy to have gotten the Mojo over the Ron Arra and don't think I will regret it for one moment at all.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:41 PM
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Jersey not at all. I checked out some of the reels from over seas and was asking myself why aren't they here? The biggest problem this year is financial reasons I can't really spend more than say about $250. My business is just breaking even and I'm starting to look for a night job and will actually be going to college in the Fall. All the information that you've given as well as everyone else I appreciate very much and it helps keep more options open as some people think this is the best or this is the best when I know things clearly aren't. Maybe the best for that individual for multiple reasons or a specific situation, you know. Oh the model of the 10'6'' Mojo is...MSS106MM2. The lighter spinning version of the two. I took it out for a few casts yesterday casting a plug then a 3 oz crippled herring. Casts very nice, love the action and don't have to put all I got into each cast to get it out there. I'll take it out to a football field sometime soon and see what the range I'm getting compared to my old rod is, which I know will be significant! I'm happy to have gotten the Mojo over the Ron Arra and don't think I will regret it for one moment at all.
I have been asking that same question for a few years now. Why not in the US. Maybe they think we cant handle the choices. One reason they don't sell the Twinpower is they don't want it to take away from the Stella sales. But they leave to big of a gap in between reels. I think you will also not regret getting the Mojo. I had a friend with the Arra 1204 which I told him to sell elsewhere, plus trying to get was becomeing a pain. I will get a Mojo tomorrow. I looked at it on Tuesday and made up my mind to get it. Not sure if I will get the 10' or 10'6" though. To be honest I think the Mojo is a better rod to fight big fish. But like said everyone has there own preferance. For the reel also check out the Diawa Saltist as it is right in your price range an it's a nice reel.
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Old 04-05-2010, 03:52 PM
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I was thinking about adding the mojo to the arsenal as well for the upcoming year. That 10'6" MSS106MM2 is a nice moderately priced rod I like the idea of a 10'6 rod in that 1-4 range.
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From being stuck on the lamiglass (arra) for so long and then deciding on the mojo I am very happy that I did get the mojo. I got to take it out for a few casts as I couldn't resist lol. I just threw a plug and 3oz crippled herring and it was like love at first sight lol. The particular model I picked up has good action and doesn't feel like it has to be babied. The only reason I may have gotten a 10' is due to the fact of the rocks down at the canal other than that...now she just needs a reel
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