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Old 07-05-2007, 01:48 AM
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Major League Baseball is Now Censoring Your Barry Bonds Signs


What First Amendment? Seeing as how Major League Baseball tolerated rampant steroid use, I guess they really are above our laws and rights.
One fan trying to express his opinion at Chase Park in Phoenix, had his sign taken away at the gates and wrote a letter to team officials. He received the following message:
"As Mr. Bonds approaches the homerun record, we have been asked by Major League Baseball to carefully screen the signs that are brought into the ballpark by our fans."
If any signs need to be removed, it's the shameless promotion garbage using network abbreviations. You know what I'm talking about.
Does MLB have the right to censor which signs you can bring to the ballpark?

Further policies rumored to be in production include:

*No talking between pitches.
*No excessive booing after the 1st inning.
*No loud slurping from lukewarm $8 beers.
*No selling of juices of any kind at any concession stand during Bonds appearances.

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Old 07-05-2007, 04:11 PM
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I Know There Is Great Debate Over This Subject,but I Still Whole Heartedly Believe If He Did Take Steroids That Didnt Earn Him All Those Home Runs,secondly He Has Never Tested Positive,now I'm Not Saying That He Didn't I Don't Know.but I Feel For The Guy He Is A Greatly Talented Ball Player.
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:59 AM
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He brought it all upon himself CK.

Year Age AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP RC
RUTH 1921 26 540 177 204 44 16 59 171 145 81 .378 .512 243
BONDS 2001 36 476 129 156 32 2 73 137 177 93 .328 .515 228

Only 2 players hit more than 25% of their home runs after age 35

BONDS 263 out of 708 for 37%
PALMEIRO 208 out of 569 for 37%

From The Transformation of Barry Bonds

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Old 07-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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36 Years Old In This Day And Age Is Still Fairly Young,alot Of These Players Are In Such Good Shape They're Contributing Very Productively In Their Forties,look At Ken Griffey Jr He Seems To Have Refound His Groove.i'm Still A Firm Believer Sports Is All About Mechanics Strength Helps But Doesn't Mean Anything If Your Mechanics Aren't There.

I Just Would Like To See The Guy Get Some Credit For Being A Great Player Weather Or Not He Used Chemicals To Be Stronger He Still Is Highly Talented And Does Atleast Deserve The Recognition For That.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:15 PM
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No Doubt CK. Watching Baseball tonight break down his swing is something. How he stays back on a ball better than anyone. No doubt hes a great player if not the top 5 all time. But I cant stand him and he cheated. Asterisk is deserved here. Let history remove it like they finally did for Roger Maris' 162 games season.
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Hank Aaron will always be the true "Home Run king". Roger Maris being the
single season record holder. Ruth doing it with less games with a cigar in
once hand and a beer in the other. If anyone with the likes of Bonds,
McQwire are every compared to them it will be with an Asterice

Bonds prolonged his career and in many cases hit the ball another 5-10 feet
because of the use of steriods. Without steriods we won't be discussing the
run at Hank Aaron's record.

Yes, like any other MLB player it is a feet many aspire to when making it
to the major league level. IMO, making it means your a great player. However, making it to the Hall Of Fame, that makes you one of a kind.

I hope he never makes it in! He doesn't deserve it.

Pete Rose ought to be inducted before any of these swell heads make it
to the hall. Oh yea, Jim Rice too! And lets give Mike Greenwell the MVP
award that Conseco got. It goes on and on...

Baseball is about its history. 20 yrs from now I wonder what will be said.

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Old 07-07-2007, 02:25 PM
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Hey jim, put up the before and after photos side by side to compare.

I wonder if there's some swim trunks photos of him... Then you could
see what roids did for him.

Sorry for the rant...Its too much...

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Cal theres a steroid thread here somewhere. ill see if they dont consolidate.Or ill link it.
Same stuff over and over. same guys . lol same opinions.

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I Know There Is Great Debate Over This Subject,but I Still Whole Heartedly Believe If He Did Take Steroids That Didnt Earn Him All Those Home Runs,secondly He Has Never Tested Positive,now I'm Not Saying That He Didn't I Don't Know.but I Feel For The Guy He Is A Greatly Talented Ball Player.

CK,

Bonds helmet size increased flippin 13 sizes from his rookie year to current. You don't get those type of results just from eating like a cow.. No one's debating that he doesn't have talent.. They also haven't released his grand jury testimony either.. I believe his test results haven't been made available to the public.. Its quite possible that he tested positive.. Should we reward cheaters?
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You Know I've Seen People In General Get Bigger In Their Heads,necks And Whatever As Aresult Of Weight Training,besides Muscles Don't Hit Home Runs Even If He Did Take Steroids That Would Never Ever Not Even A Close To Hitting Over 700 Home Runs,a Few Here And There I Could See,look At Jason Giambi Who Has Admitted To Steroids And Has Been Riddled With Health Issues,and Has Never Even Come Close To The Productivety,and If Anything Steroids Would Shorten A Career Not Prolong It.i Hate To Sound Like I'm Arguing I Just Strongly Feel People Are Looking For An Excuse As To Why The Records Going To Be Broken.i'm Not Buying It.it's Very Easy To Point Fingers,but The Fact Is He Derved The Recognition,thhough It Will Be Short Lived Because A-rod I Saw A Stat Last Night That If He Matches Hank Aarons Production From Age 29 On He'll Hit Over 900 Hr.lets Face It The Guys Today Are Just A Result Of Intense Training On Mechanics And Perfecting Their Craft.
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Its fine to agree to disagree.. In my opinion there's definitely quite possibly a link to hitting more home runs and taking steroids.. Yes Giambi has been injured but if you look at his stats when he was on fire w/ home runs and the size of his arms compared to recently he's ways below. Now I know he has been injured but I feel the same pattern is there w/ bonds.. Yes taking steroids only won't result in hitting home runs, you have to have the talent too, but if taking steroids hits the ball another 20 feet and increases an ave year of home runs from 40 - 45. I still say they shouldn't count. If this is going to be the case, Pete Rose should be allowed into the hall of fame..
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Steriods help with recovery time, and that is a fact.. so while older players take longer to recover, those using illeagal substances recover quicker, to add to that, those taking injections are more likely not to wear down as the season wears on.... When Giambi went off steroids he sucked and took a long time to heal...There is a good reason Doctors precribe low dose steriods for minor( and some not so minor) body ailments.

No doubt that bonds is a great player,one of the best of all time, long before the Balco cloud shrouded him, but although he may or may not have partaken in the use of the substances, the question will allways be there, he's just too close to the fire not to get burned....

Just imagine if the splendid splinter, the babe and the great Willy Mays had the science available to them( and they used it) that is available to todays athelets how great they would have been... lets not forget about Lou Brock... Imagine how many bases modern science would have gotten him...,

If the record is allowed to stand without any notation,I agree with steve, Pete Rose should be allowed to be in the hall, even if there is a notation.... after all.... his latter digressions sholuld not cloud his great career... he still was one of the best at his posistion, even if his characature is/was flawed, isnt that what the hall of fame is all about?
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I couldn't agree any more rock.. Selig might as well test every player or allow them to use aluminum bats.. either way I don't feel its on a level playing field anytime your discussing records of any sort..
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