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Old 04-04-2006, 07:01 AM
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Sure,,, basically just a big bobber. A bunker or mack would just pull a regular bobber right under. Tie it to a fish finder slide on a long leader and let em swim.
Bait, do you leave your reel in freespool?
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Old 04-04-2006, 07:54 AM
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bait, learn that rig so;s you can teach it to me when you come down. roc, give him the crash course! that skipjack method would be way wrong to use before the bass season opens.
No problem Zim, Roc showed me how last year. Best live bait rig I've ever seen. I tied a bunch of em a couple weeks ago in preparation for the season.

Sadlsorz, yep. Use a baitrunner type reel or conventional with the clicker on. As your live bait takes off just give it enough line to swim freely. When you get a hit, let it run for a few seconds before engaging the main drag and letting one of the circle hooks set neatly in the corner of the mouth. I don't have one, but Roc uses lever drag reels with this rig so that he can smoothly increase the drag from freespool to fighting position.
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:02 AM
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Great. And you typically hook the bait in front of the dorsal?
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:16 AM
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My digital camera is on the fritz or I'd post a photo of the rig I'm talking about. It's a double hook rig. The bottom hook goes through the back of the bait fish either in front of, or just behind the dorsal fin. The top hook, which is rigged so that it can slide up and down on the leader, making it adjustable to fit any size bait, is hooked through the nose.

Similar to this rig that you can get at Cabela's, but better. Cheap and easy to make. I'll post a photo as soon as I can get my camera straightened out.



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Old 04-04-2006, 08:22 AM
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wow Ive never seen that before Thanks for the info, the boats going in on monday, I'm chompin' at the bit.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:05 PM
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Can someone post a pic or tell me how to tie that "sliding knot" rig. I'd like to ust that rig.
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Old 04-05-2006, 03:08 PM
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I should have my camera back tomorrow and I'll post a pic.

Basically, you tie on your bottom hook, pass the leader through the eye of the sliding hook, then take some dental floss and make a series of 10 or 12 tight half hitches around the shank of the sliding hook and the leader. Make sure you tie em tight enough that the hook doesn't slide real easy, but you can still move it. Coat the floss with Pliobond or superglue and let it set. Finish it off with a surgeon's knot or swivel on the top end of the leader.

I make mine about 3 feet long or so, using a 6/0 or 7/0 circle hook at the bottom and a 5/0 or 6/0 octopus (offset) circle as the sliding hook. The offset eye on the sliding hook lets the shank of the hook lie straight against the leader.

Hook the bottom hook through the back of your bait first, then slide the top hook down and hook it through the nose.

Again,, thanks to Roccus for showing me that. I'm sure he'll correct me if I got anything wrong.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:36 PM
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owners rig is called a "boa rig" not so secret after all. i will trade knots as we can have a clinic on knot tying on the beach if it gets slow IF i say



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Old 04-05-2006, 11:41 PM
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This is the rig Zims talkin about.

Owners Boa Rig features a revolutionary knot that allows an angler to adjust the lead hook yet get a firm hookset when setting the lead hook. By applying pressure to the knot itself, the lead hook slides up or down the line to accomodate vaious bait sizes. When pressure is applied to the hook, the knot "locks" in place allowing for a firm hookset.

Made from super-strong Kevlar cord, the Secret Knot responds by constricting tight around the main line when pressure is applied by a striking fish
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:49 PM
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hey clumsy! heard your fishing with the chin sunday? lmao. still gonna go all night with the seals at the fort? he fell too as i recall. you guys can exchange flop stories instead of fish stories. lol. call my cell if your coming down tomorrow. demetrius is coming to fish at nite. don;t know where i will be fishing yet. i will be commiserating with you at the rock btw as i just can;t see you get skunked all by yourself! am i a friend or what.



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Old 04-06-2006, 12:05 AM
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You just know that big fat queen cow (no not minnie me's girl) will be cruising with her little sisters past my rock. I've hooked her a few times over the last few years and shes beaten me every time. Not this year my friend. The bitch is mine.
My shoulder and my knee is healing. Nice green bruises. My elbow still hurts a little.

The best place IMO is g** in the back. Shallow and bait city.
We should set up shop there. I have the pass so we could ride in together. Ill meet you guys at the pier if you want.

Btw once chin checks out the 'hole' He'll be taking the ferry over.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:07 AM
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Finally got my camera back.

Here are the photos of the sliding hook rig I promised.



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Old 04-20-2006, 10:18 AM
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I wonder where I've seen that before???
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:40 AM
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Feel free to correct me Roc if it needs improvement. Just going by memory here from the rig you showed me last year. Hope I'm doing it right. Sure works well anyway .
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Here is the result of my ballon and mackerel trip,I went out from just north of Beverely MA. It was a blast! we single hooked them in the nose and was fishing about 40 foot deep.Almost a state record at 68lbs,after being in the boat all day


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