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Old 01-08-2009, 07:33 PM
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This thread was cleaved from a similar thread.

Be mindful that this time they were caught.

February 2009
North Carolina
Gill Net Anglers run afoul of fishing Laws
Since setting nets in these inland waters is illegal the netters usually use sink nets that leave no above water signs that the nets are there. Poachers commonly practice their trade during the night to escape detection by the authorities.
Reports from the upset anglers who'd observed the violation(s) were that the nets had been placed under surveillance by the game wardens and when the netters returned to fish their nets, they were cited (some say arrested) for numerous violations of the NCWRC regulations. The authorities impounded the nets and took the fish that were entangled in the nets.


January 31 2009
State, federal investigators uncover extensive poaching ring in Md., Va
The watermen and fish dealers have been charged under the Lacey Act, which prohibits the illegal taking of wildlife in one state for the purpose of selling it in another. Violations of the act carry a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, plus potential forfeiture of the boats and vehicles used.

A task force conducted undercover purchases and sales of striped bass in 2003, engaged in covert observation of commercial fishing operations in the Chesapeake Bay and Potomac River area, and conducted detailed analysis of area striped bass catch reporting and commercial business sales records from 2003 through 2007.

U.S. District Court in Greenbelt, criminal complaints were filed against these watermen: Thomas L. Crowder Jr., 40, of Leonardtown; John W. Dean, 53, of Scotland; Charles Quade, 55, of Churchton; Keith Collins, 57, of Deale; and Thomas L. Hallock, 48, of Catharpin, Va.

Disposition pending

JAN 6 2009.
Natural Resources Police seized nearly 3 tons of striped bass Sunday from a trawler. It was the second time in less than a week that officers had charged Jack C. Colbourne, owner of Colbourne Seafood Inc.

Dec. 30, 2008
Officers boarded the Mount Vernon in West Ocean City and charged Colbourne with exceeding his 1,900-pound seasonal allocation of striped bass, or rockfish, by 138 pounds, Turner said.

Fined $250.

These guys are considered recreational towards the count but I totally believe they should be count towards the commercial quota

November 14, 2008
Jerome E. Hurd of Avalon and Steven N. Forsberg of Montauk, N.Y., were charged with illegal fishing and filing false reports relating to two trips last fall in which their boats traveled outside state boundaries and came back with striped bass. Charles also were filed against Viking Starship, owner and operator of the vessel Forsberg ran.
Jeffrey Ray, a special agent with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said Hurd took patrons last December anywhere from 12 to 15 miles offshore for striped bass, and Forsberg brought customers last November about 4 miles off the coast of Montauk. Each boat carried between 30 and 40 passengers, he said.

Hurd's boat caught nine striped bass and Forsberg's passengers hauled in 75 to 100 of the fish, Ray said.

September 24th 2008

A Connecticut fisherman and a Rhode Island seafood dealer were arrested, accused of the illegal sale of striped bass.
The fisherman, Sean Bradshaw, 44, of Pawcatuck, was charged with the landing and sale of striped bass without a commercial license, commercial fishing without a vessel permit, possession of untagged striped bass and the commercial sale of scup without a license and during the closed season.
The seafood dealer, John Guerrieri, 50, of South Kingstown, R.I., was charged with buying seafood without a Connecticut seafood dealers license and operating a motor vehicle without a license.

At the time of the arrest, Connecticut and Rhode Island officers seized 42 striped bass weighting a total of 971 pounds, and 89 scup weighting a total of 87 pounds. The estimated commercial value of the bass was $2,913,
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Lets break it down to brass tacks.

The recreational sector and its economic impact on the multi-billion dollar hook line and sinker fishing / boating / tourism industries.


The Commercial fishing industry - their political clout
Balanced with their right to fish - employ workers - sustain a dying industry supply the distributors and the consumers with fresh fish.


A solution would be to supply the fresh fish market through aquacultured striped bass exclusively. This of course addresses the supply and demand aspect but not the impact on the commercial industry as it shifts the dollars to a entirely different industry.
A % of sales could go back to the commercial Captains to offset their losses of not fishing for the bass. Sort of a pay for not harvesting crops like the govt has done in the past with farmers.

Now lets assume the striped bass has gamefish status for this discussion.
The increased predation population affecting other fish species IMO isnt a good enough argument to preclude gamefish status. Look at history as the barometer. Before the crash and overfishing their were plenty of forage available for a biomass that dwarfs todays levels.


An informed public would go a long way in making sound decisions as whats best for the species and not whats best for the various special interests. For example - interested parties need to be informed about the political aspects of the Governing boards, their appointments and what interests they may represent. 5 voting members out of a total of 21 on the Mid-Atlantic Council work for the commercial fishing industry.
The Mid-Atlantic Council states include North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. Structurally, the Mid-Atlantic Council has 21 voting members: the
Northeast regional administrator of NMFS, a representative of the marine resource agency for each of the seven Mid-Atlantic states, and 13 members nominated by the state governors and appointed by the Secretary of Commerce. The 13 appointed members serve for three-year terms, up to a maximum of three consecutive terms. In addition, four non-voting members represent the U.S. Coast Guard, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Department of State, and the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission. The Mid-Atlantic Council meets seven times a year, alternating
locations between all of the seven Mid-Atlantic states. The three or four day meetings provide opportunities for the public to observe the meetings and participate in public testimony on specific actions of the Mid-Atlantic Council. In 2007, the Mid-Atlantic Council will switch to meeting only
six times a year, in six of the seven Mid-Atlantic states.

Also a rudimentary understanding of the complex nature of of the symbiotic relationships of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - Atlantic States Marine fisheries Council (ASMFC) and the Federal Fishery Management Councils - National Marine Fisheries Service and the Federal Fish and Wildlife agencies among many others.

Here is a publication of interest
This report was funded in part by the following grants # NA 07 FGO 024 and NA 97 FGO 034 from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
Habitat managers database

The Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission was formed by the 15 Atlantic coastal states in 1942 for the promotion and protection of coastal fishery resources.

to be continued. please add your thoughts and comments
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It sounds as though The quote by the "Examiner reader was probably a friend of Mr. Colbourne or Mr. Colbourne himself defending himself publicly.
Those were my thoughts as well, Its likely if thats the case he was testing the DNR to see if he could get away with it and they gave him the rope. Otherwise why the heck allow an all day plunder?
At any rate it supplies fodder for the need for gamefish status.


I thought it might be an idea to offset commercial supply with an aqua-cultured supply through Wallop Breaux funding but then thought
It would make better sense to compensate the commercial fishing industry for not fishing for bass through the non-fishing (and non-Wallop Breaux contributing) seafood consuming public it supplies.
The % should come from the restaurant tabs.
I dont advocate more consumer taxes or fees but i do agree with a pay per use fee in this - a hypothetical case.
Im sure there is a better alternative. Ideas and dialogue are whats needed on these issues.

5 voting members out of a total of 21 on the Mid-Atlantic Council work for the commercial fishing industry.
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First Reduce the bluefish and dogfish poulations and increase the forage base.
Dogfish are protected. Why? I have no idea.

A solution would be to supply the fresh fish market through aquacultured striped bass exclusively
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