Thanks so much for the advise. I'll have to give em a try next time I go. I hope the weather isn't too nasty this weekend. Seems like we have good weather all week then the weekend rolls around and it rains. I don't mind fishing in the rain, but it would be nice to actually catch something. Maybe between trying clambellies and moving to a little different location I can get some action. Been chatting with The Riddler about kayaks, thinking of doing some demos and maybe picking one up soon if I can find one that won't break the bank. These big yaks are a whole different animal than the little whitewater toys I played with as a kid on the Missouri rivers. Can't afford much right now, but something like that would at least allow me some mobility and access to some spots I can't reach right now.