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Old 06-23-2010, 10:12 PM
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Hmm, if it doesn't come out that is going to be tricky drilling the pattern.

Could i pm you my email to send the templates to? REALLY Appreciate the help!
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:58 PM
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Good job on stripping that reel! PM me your e-mail and i'll forward you those templates. Might not need them for the bottom of the rotor cup but will work for the sides and the spool. Better way for the bottom is to get a compass that measures, i'll post a pic. Two bucks from school supplies and your in. When your ready i'll walk you through. I'm gonna hunt some Fluke tonight, maybe i'll get lucky with a keeper.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:05 PM
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Sweet, thanks again. I'm purchasing a 704 this week, i'm hooked..lol

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Old 06-24-2010, 11:47 AM
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Will you be adding bearings to the 704? I have some extras!
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:18 PM
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Bearings meaning the pinion bearings? (I'm new at this)
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:58 PM
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My 704 runs on four bearings instead of one which makes it much smoother. I replaced the bushings with bearings so i have the pinion and main gear running on two bearings each. Should be about halfway into the thread. Don't think anyone did this before but it makes a big difference when you pack the housing with grease to waterproof it. Also the bushings wear down in time and it's a pain to replace them. I did sacrafice a few housings untill i got it right but it was worth it IMO.
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:31 PM
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Hmm...I'm kinda lost here, but i'm for anything which makes these things smoother.

So your saying take the bushing out of the handle slot and replace it with a bearing? And that bearing on the main gear (pinion i think?), the black one, is that a totally new one, or just put new ball bearings in there? If so can you some how explain this! (i read the begginging of the thread, and i think i some what of a grasp on it).

And i just bought a 704 today!
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:04 PM
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Don't take anything out yet. The handle screws onto the main gear. (Stainless steel shaft attached to the brass main gear) When you turn the handle, you spin the main gear that spins the pinion gear(all stainless steel), that spins the rotor cup and lays line on the spool. Top of the pinion gear spins on a bearing, bottom of the pinion gear spins on a bushing in the housing. The main gear spins on a bushing inside the housing and another on what i call the trumpet by the handle which is flanged( has a small lip). Bushings and main gear are made of brass. Stainless steel is a harder metal than brass, therefor the brass will wear out faster. When you have two metals rubbing together the weaker one will give way to the stronger. The bearings i pictured are sealed with rubber shields(black,blue)and packed with grease. They are not standard Penn bearings. If your gonna dunk the reel in the surf these bearings are ideal because they are sealed to keep out contaminants( dust, sand, and even water) so the balls inside the bearing will last a whole lot longer. If you stay with the bushings you need to clean or replace them for a smooth operation. Replacing is a pain to take out and to put back in so you would need to sand the inside with 600 or 800 grit sandpaper which you roll up and work the inside of the bushing. Only thing is as the material gets worn away(inside diameter of the bushing) the space becomes too large for the shaft that spins in it and the reel will have play in it. It took me a long time to figure out how to add the bearings. I guess if it was easy someone would have done this a long time ago! Maybe over the winter i'll write up a detailed thread on this when i have more time and patience. Maybe i'll hook you up and do yours for the thread so i can put up pics as i go along. There's a lot of chit needed to do all that and i obviously have all that already. I sent you the templates, did you get'em? Go through the thread, i put up pics as i went along. Not detailed but but you'll get a better feel of what i'm talking about. Can't wait for the USA to win again on saturday! World Cup is getting closer baby!

BTW- i think pages 4 and 5 show the bearings!
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:04 PM
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Wow, tons of info here...

Could i buy one of the pinion bearings of you? I plan on dunking the reel (ALOT), as for the adding of the second bearings, it would be really sweet if you could do that, i'll pay ya for materials/shipping/labor as well. For now, i'm going to work with what i have, meaning stripping the reel, cleaning the parts/drilling, etc... Is there anything else i could do to increase the smoothness of the reel without modifying the housings or the body of the acual reel?

Yes, i did get the templates, thanks a ton, just purchased the 704 today (with the swoosh), so i'm gonna do a cool looking design on thre side plate. As i said, i'm gonna do the basic stuff first, stripping/cleaning parts/seeing what needs to be replaced/ then drilling. Then we'll take it from there...

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Like i said, very lightly sand the inside of the bushings for now with fine grit sandpaper untill you get a shine and apply some oil before reassembly. That's all you can do without changing them. Main gear on these are hard to find brand new, they come up on e-bay sometimes so i would jump on one if it comes up. They retail for $30.00. also pack the housing with grease to protect everything inside. Scott's B&T in Jersey carries a lot of parts that you may need. PM me your name and address and i'll ship out a bearing to you.
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:53 PM
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im watching this closely as i too have a 704z that I grew up fishing, and dont use too much, is as solid as a rock, have a bailess setup already, and would love to drill and pimp out. . keep me updated on the prgress!
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Progress has been made as far as adding bearings and porting out these reels. If you would like the drilling templates i'll gladlly forward them to you as well. Just PM me your e-mail. I guess all gratitude should be forwarded to Rickski for the templates. It was his work not mine.
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I'm glad the templates are coming in handy.
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i found this if this helps anybody http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.as...earchkit&cat=5
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is there one for a penn 706 ??
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