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Old 12-02-2009, 01:29 PM
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Another way to reem out the opening is to drill it. You would need a Mill or press and numbered drill bit that is a tiny bit bigger. Fractional bits jump in sizes where numbered bits increase in size very slightly. You would want to vise it and make sure it is totally inline which is easier than it sounds. Another way to make it slightly bigger is sand with a flap paper bit. I forget the exact name but it has sanding cloth in strips. Dremel has a small one that may fit
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:07 PM
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Decided to get a drill press. Nothing big since i'm an apartment dweller. Found one (50lbs.) 1/2 inch chuck, 1/3 hpr. motor, five speeds $60.00. Only gonna use it on small projects so i think it should be fine.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:52 PM
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After replacing the pinion bushing with a needle bearing and spinning it around i wasn't too happy with the free play so on my 706 i decided to go with a radial instead. I milled out 3.5mm with a 15/32(11.9mm)bit and left the bushing in. Just took width of the bearing off the top with the press. You have to be VERY carefull to be aligned correct and mill slow. I finished it by hand with a x-tra fine file and 600grit paper! I also expanded the I.O. of the bushing a little and the pinion spins like a dream. My only thought is how the bearing will hold up under pressure. That pinion might push too hard on the inner race and pop it out. We'll see! For now, one step closer to my goal. I also picked up a spare spool and drilled it out. Looks preety good. Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:27 PM
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Just got done replacing the outer bushing on the main gear shaft with a flanged bearing. Very SMOOTH with four bearings. Now i gotta work on the anti-reverse. Also picked up a power knob that i attached to an old handle. I wanna put a bearing in it on the bottom wich means i have to make the knob shaft 0.5mm smaller. Anybody care to chime in as the best way to do that? It's stailess steel so i'm thinking a ss file maybe.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:59 PM
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Try Putting a Needle in between two flanged bearings on the handle shaft. I think it will fit. You will have to eliminate the oiler but it should fit. It will put the anti reverse in the handle. That is what I planned on doing.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:59 PM
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:46 PM
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Try Putting a Needle in between two flanged bearings on the handle shaft. I think it will fit. You will have to eliminate the oiler but it should fit. It will put the anti reverse in the handle. That is what I planned on doing.
That's exactlly what i tryed to do on a 704 housing,won't get into details but i need to order 13mm O.D.for that one! As soon as my buddy brings me my spare i can drill again and test if the cylindrical shape of the needle bearing will hold under pressure. Will probably add some locktight to it so it doesn't spin but that's gotta be milled out perfect and tight. BOCA has a clutch bearing with a hexagon housing but that won't work in the handle, more likelly on top of the rotor bearing and maybe do something with the retainer to hold it in place. My head's starting to spin thinking about this again And Jack, after this, were gonna water-seal this puppy! I think i got it figured out except for the shaft. Any idea how to make that knob shaft a little smaller? I was thinking about placing it in the chuck and as it spins putting a steel file on it until i get the right diameter.
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:39 PM
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Filing it by hand sounds a bit scary to me. I bought my needles at VXB I want to say they were 12 od. And I tried them on the shaft and they fit perfect. I am going to buy a set of adjustable reamers this weekend at a machine shop supplier this weekend so i can get it nice and tight in there. I also consider loc-tite or even marine epoxy in a thin layer on the outside of the clutch. I haven't been nearly as involved in mine as you have been though. I am looking forward to dig into it though.
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Old 12-30-2009, 07:16 PM
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I'm using the needles from VMX as well. I guess i mean more like "sanding" with a fine file or could wrap some fine gritt 600 sandpaper on the bit and spin it around. My bit is 11.9 mm and i guess that .1 makes enough of a difference to not let the bearing slide in. The needle is 12mm on the caliper but other bearings i have are 12.2 and even 12.3 whichis a PITA cause you gotta sand a lot. I like the Epoxy idea although i'm gonna try loktight first and see how that holds up.

Just realizing by filing you meant about the knob shaft! Actually it workedI bought some cheap garbage knowing they were gonna get ripped up but it worked. I'll put up picks on my next post.

BTW i think that makes it six bearings if the needle works!

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Old 03-30-2010, 03:13 PM
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Well it's been a while since my last post but i got the one-way clutch bearing in and it seems to hold up well with the locktight(threadlock) although i won't know for sure untill i have a cow on the other end peeling line off my spool.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:53 PM
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Hey Cappy. Good going. I had hoped to do mine but things got crazy this winter. I have a bunch of notes I made when I thought about doing this as I knew it could be done-make a great reel better. Maybe when you have a chance we can go over things. You had mentioned that you may have some things left over. Well now that I have a couple other good reels to use I'm taking my 704 out of commission to modify. Shoot me a PM when you get a chance. Did you drill out the spool and skirt? If you need I have a few drill presses along with a mill we could do it on.

Scratch the drilling part, I just didn't look at all the posts-got lazy
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What's up jstriper. Just sent you a PM. I'll throw some pics up of rotor and spool. (rotor-704, spool 706)They'll look real sweet once i get them painted with HOT COAT!
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Well this is my first post on this forum, I noticed the thread for the 704s and
figured I show you guys my first attempt at doing a couple Rat-Reels.
Two tune one I did for my dads 70th B-day gift and the silver one I did for his life long fishing buddy. Now I'm working on one for my self.
B&S one also had the anti reverse selector removed.
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and nice job on the reels.
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