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Old 08-27-2011, 03:45 AM
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Great info striperhyper. Much appreciated.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:24 PM
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Great info here , thanks very much. I have been using a wire leader to tie all of my plugs because im scared of losing 15-20 dollar lures to bluefish. Is there another strategy for tying plugs with bluefish around? I picked up a couple of surf leaders that im waiting another week or 2 to try. Thanks to everyone i really apreciate it.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:00 AM
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I have never lost a plug to a bluefish using a regular mono or flouro leader, as when they're hooked on a plug their teeth are generally well back away from the leader. Not saying it can't happen, but it hasn't ever happened to me.

I have lost bucktails & eel hooks to blues on occasion, but even that is rare. A 40lb test flouro leader will often come back scuffed up a bit after a blue tangles with a bucktail or eel hook, but rarely will it be bitten through if the fish is lip hooked. If it takes the hook deep, so that the teeth are directly on the line, that's when you'll have the greatest chance of losing it. I lose way more bucktails to getting them caught in rocks than to bluefish
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:58 PM
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Awesome thread! I have a question. I was fishing the cape cod canal this past weekend for stripers. To cut a long story short, an old timer started fishing next to me, and was explaining that my setup was wrong, as I had a lot of big swivels and snaps (Fish Finder setup) and that the stripers would see all of this and stay away from my line. He also said to never use a wire/steel leader, as stripers will stay away from them, best to let a blue take it... Now, all this being said, I passed it off as "oh boy, just someone elses opinion...". That was until he caught 4 stripers in 2 hours!! (3 under size, but 1 at 32 inches). He was using a 50lb braided mainline with a small 50lb barrel swivel and 3ft mono leader to a 5/0 hook with Mackerel chunks, no weight, just letting it go with the current and chuming Mackerel... So, that being said, does a wire/steel leader really put off the stripers, and do they stay away from big brass snaps and swivels??
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:03 PM
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Awesome thread! I have a question. I was fishing the cape cod canal this past weekend for stripers. To cut a long story short, an old timer started fishing next to me, and was explaining that my setup was wrong, as I had a lot of big swivels and snaps (Fish Finder setup) and that the stripers would see all of this and stay away from my line. He also said to never use a wire/steel leader, as stripers will stay away from them, best to let a blue take it... Now, all this being said, I passed it off as "oh boy, just someone elses opinion...". That was until he caught 4 stripers in 2 hours!! (3 under size, but 1 at 32 inches). He was using a 50lb braided mainline with a small 50lb barrel swivel and 3ft mono leader to a 5/0 hook with Mackerel chunks, no weight, just letting it go with the current and chuming Mackerel... So, that being said, does a wire/steel leader really put off the stripers, and do they stay away from big brass snaps and swivels??
Let's just say you got some good advice from a guy who knows what he's talking about Hard to say exactly what a fish sees, and often that depends a lot on the clarity of the water, amount of light, etc. Depending on those factors, the fish could be hunting by sight, smell, or the vibrations in the water, but keeping your terminal tackle to a minimum is always sound advice.

Plus... when the current is running hard in the CCC, it's going to be really tough to get a fishfinder rig to do what it's supposed to do. Drifting chucks, eels, or fishing with jigs/lures are usually much better options in the canal, especially when the current is ripping.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:15 PM
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By the way,,, next time you see someone chumming in the canal, move yourself at least 30 yards or so down current from him so that his chum slick is working in your favor as well, but far enough away that you're not messing with the drift of his line.
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Thanks JakeF, good advice on the advice. We also saw two Ocean Sunfish, literally surfaced on our lines... The advice was, if you hook one, cut your line immediately otherwise you will lose your rod, reel and possibly yourself! Holy moly those things are big....
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Thanks alot JakeF and im sorry for asking in a sticky. Im going to try my surf leader tonight on the side of the state channel. I wish i could reach the bridge pylons but its a little far 8). Ill be at field 2 Moses tomorrow if anyone would like to fish and ill be in Montauk Fri. Im glad i saved some vacation time this year. Great fishing everyone and im enjoying the site, thanks alot.
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Good luck out there guys

Aemon, I'm leaving for Montauk tonight and will be there through Sunday. If you see a red crew cab Silverado with MA plates and a dead skunk hung from the roof rack, stop and say hi
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:41 AM
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Sounds good to me, ill be on the lookout. Maybe ill run into you at Paulies 8)
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I've been looking for a thread like this, so thank you.

I'm only 2 outings-old into surf and inshore fishing and am wading through all of the jargon, techniques and such to figure out where to start.

I prefer to keep things simple, but am always evaluating price vs. performance.

I bought up a bunch of well lauded lures while I had a $10-off $50 Dick's coupon. I experimented with fishing several of them on the Metedeconk river at the end of my street :) I've got the water column covered.

However, I'm still uncertain about my terminal tackle setup for hooking all this stuff up to allow the lures to operate at their best and then figure out effective tackle for bait fishing. I haven't tried fishing with bait yet.

I'm targeting stripers, blues and then summer flounder for the table here in NJ. I fish in the Metedeconk and out on the ocean beach in Ocean county. [I see the new regs were just adopted here, one striper of 28"+, a second striper of 43"+].

I'm on a single pole, Penn Battle II 8000 combo with 10' MH 2-6oz graphite rod loaded with 400yds of 20# mono.

For lures, I was thinking of getting a goood quality Spro or Sampos 100#-150# ball bearing swivel with welded ring + coastlock and tying that to my main line with a Palomar knot. Attaching lures right to the coastlock.

For bait, fish finder clip on main line, bead, then 100-150# welded rings ball bearing swivel, then tying on red or black wire (not sure on test) or 80#+ test flouro to a Gamma 7/O or 8/) octo hook.

Thoughts?

Not sure on simple flounder rigs.
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